[Charles Kovess]: Everybody, we'll help Jerry.
[Charles Kovess]: Let's get this show on the road.
[Charles Kovess]: Thank you, Jerry.
[Charles Kovess]: Jerome, keep listening.
[Charles Kovess]: JJ, welcome.
[Charles Kovess]: Good to see you.
[Charles Kovess]: Are you ready to get going?
[Charles Kovess]: I'm sure you are.
[Charles Kovess]: Everybody, welcome again to Medical Doctors for COVID Ethics.
[Charles Kovess]: I won't go through the introduction because we're 20 minutes in following Jerome's most helpful statement.
[Charles Kovess]: Our presenter today is JJ Cooey.
[Charles Kovess]: Many of us think he's a genius, including me.
[Charles Kovess]: He has presented to us on numerous occasions.
[Charles Kovess]: and has always provoked some wonderful conversations.
[Charles Kovess]: So JJ, thank you for being here.
[Charles Kovess]: He's a biologist.
[Charles Kovess]: He's got a PhD.
[Charles Kovess]: You can tell us what your PhD is in, JJ.
[Charles Kovess]: His website is GigaOMBiological.
[Charles Kovess]: You can see that on the screen.
[Charles Kovess]: It's got wonderful resources there for anyone who wants to dive deep.
[Charles Kovess]: So, JJ, we are in your hands.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's a recovering academic biologist.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's how he described himself the first time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe he's changed now, metamorphosed into something else.
[J.Jay Couey]: And you're muted, Jay.
[J.Jay Couey]: I'm actually a recovering seventh grade basketball coach.
[J.Jay Couey]: We just got clobbered today.
[J.Jay Couey]: So thank you very much for letting me delay.
[J.Jay Couey]: I apologize for being late.
[J.Jay Couey]: I think my microphone's a little close to my face.
[J.Jay Couey]: But I don't think that I can really say much more than I've said in the last five or six times that I've been allowed to present here.
[J.Jay Couey]: Just a couple points to make.
[J.Jay Couey]: I've been calling myself a biology coach lately, and I think that there is no better way
[J.Jay Couey]: to speak about what I'm trying to accomplish here.
[J.Jay Couey]: I would really strongly encourage everyone to have the courage to think about the possibility that most of what they know about biology is wrong.
[J.Jay Couey]: And that's coming from a guy who considers himself a biologist since I was a little kid, ever since I was watching birds and collecting snakes.
[J.Jay Couey]: I've been a biologist, I've been interested in nature and in animals and in ecosystems and niches and all this other stuff.
[J.Jay Couey]: And so I was hook, line, and sinker on the idea that evolution is real, because DNA is real.
[J.Jay Couey]: I was absolutely hook, line, and sinker in on the idea that because we know DNA is there, and evolution happened, then all we really have to do is figure out what all these genes do, and we'll understand how life works.
[J.Jay Couey]: I taught high school biology that way.
[J.Jay Couey]: I was taught biology that way in my master's degree and my PhD.
[J.Jay Couey]: And up until 2022, I would have gone to the mat with anybody about those ideas and about how central they were to understanding our world and our role in it and the way that generations are related to each other, the way pollution affects us, yada, yada, yada.
[J.Jay Couey]: And I can't tell you how far off the target I really was.
[J.Jay Couey]: and how much awakening I've done in the last two years, and that's why these guys have invited me back so many times.
[J.Jay Couey]: I don't consider myself special at all.
[J.Jay Couey]: In fact, I consider myself somebody who's just done more of the right exercises than a lot of people in this recent history have done.
[J.Jay Couey]: And there have been a lot of fake trainers out there, people that have encouraged people to waste a lot of time working on the details of Pfizer documents that don't matter, or working on the details of the ACE2 receptor that don't matter, or the Bradykinin
[J.Jay Couey]: signaling pathway that don't matter, or working on some other interesting biological question that has nothing to do with the pandemic, nothing to do with the biology of respiratory disease, nothing to do with murder and lies.
[J.Jay Couey]: And I really, my big message is to try and challenge everybody to really think carefully about the main best explanation for why all these governments on all these news programs and all these languages were essentially saying the same thing for the first year is because this was a coordinated group of liars.
[J.Jay Couey]: It's not a uniform message because we need a uniform message in the face of an emergency.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's what they want you to believe.
[J.Jay Couey]: But what it actually is, it's a uniform message in the situation where we're trying to get the entire world to believe a lie.
[J.Jay Couey]: And unfortunately, it is not just coronavirus, but it is most of our recent history.
[J.Jay Couey]: The recent history of the West, controlled by the victors, is not the real history of what happened.
[J.Jay Couey]: And so we need historians.
[J.Jay Couey]: We need recent historians.
[J.Jay Couey]: We need archivists, people that are willing to go and look for these original sources and put them away.
[J.Jay Couey]: And we need the people to go on the Internet and look at the videos and listen to the blog posts and listen to the interviews.
[J.Jay Couey]: of the people that they think are heroes and double back on them.
[J.Jay Couey]: Because the reality is, is that we have a lot of heroes in our midst right now that are not heroes.
[J.Jay Couey]: Now, I don't know who's in the audience right now, but the last time that I spoke in front of this group, there was a guy in the audience by the name of Nick Hudson.
[J.Jay Couey]: Is he in the audience right now?
[J.Jay Couey]: No.
[J.Jay Couey]: No, because Nick Hudson is one of these people who has posed as a good guy for quite a while, and if you want an answer to why that's absolutely, positively, 100% verifiable on the Internet, just take a look at the fact that Stephen Frost's group, within 24 hours of any speech that I ever give, Charles has the video up on the Internet on Rumble.
[J.Jay Couey]: I have wasted no less than 25 or 30 hours preparing three separate talks for PANDA over the course of the last three years.
[J.Jay Couey]: The first talk that I gave for Nick Hudson's group, PANDA, was an immunology lecture that a PANDA member by the name of David Wiseman called an immunology lecture better than any he'd ever seen and it should be required for every medical student on earth.
[J.Jay Couey]: And none of these three videos that I presented to Panda are on their website on Rumble.
[J.Jay Couey]: None of them.
[J.Jay Couey]: Only Jessica Rose has five videos.
[J.Jay Couey]: Only Marc Giraudoux has five videos.
[J.Jay Couey]: Only all of these meddlers from CHD have videos there, but not me.
[J.Jay Couey]: My videos are all gone.
[J.Jay Couey]: My video that I produced about two months ago for the other medical doctors for COVID ethics just happened to get lost.
[J.Jay Couey]: And Mike Palmer says, well, if you have a copy of it on your website, then we don't need to load it on ours.
[J.Jay Couey]: Now, you need to understand what I'm trying to say to you here.
[J.Jay Couey]: I'm trying to say that there are very few people in the COVID narrative who have been treated like me.
[J.Jay Couey]: where some of these people have actually shown up at my house over the last five years.
[J.Jay Couey]: Some of these people have paid me more than $100,000 a year in a salary and are now ignoring me.
[J.Jay Couey]: And so you've got to really square the circle here how America and all the heroes from America all have selfies with me, have all been to my house, have all eaten dinner at my table,
[J.Jay Couey]: and now uniformly ignore me.
[J.Jay Couey]: Kevin McKernan went from wanting to be on my stream in 2022 three times and begging me to put me on his stream to writing a substack about me a year later and calling my idea on how they use recombinant DNA to fake virology chemtrail retarded.
[J.Jay Couey]: And so as an American, I'm telling you that America is under attack.
[J.Jay Couey]: We are under attack by a group of liars that's probably headed by a guy by the name of Robert Wallace Malone.
[J.Jay Couey]: Robert Wallace Malone has been a problem for my family directly for more than five years because he's put a lot of people against me.
[J.Jay Couey]: People that live in America, but also foreigners that live in other countries like South Africa and Japan.
[J.Jay Couey]: And so, my family has no more savings, we rent our house, we are about to be homeless, and it's not exaggeration.
[J.Jay Couey]: I don't have a sub-stack that has more than 55,000 paid subscribers like Jessica Rose does, or like Robert Malone does.
[J.Jay Couey]: You understand that that means more than $50,000 a month, right?
[J.Jay Couey]: You understand that these people who have been given a book deal already in 2021, no one's approached me for a book, even though Stephen Frost seems to think that I should keep talking and that I should come back on the 29th again to talk again.
[J.Jay Couey]: To say what?
[J.Jay Couey]: I don't really have much more to say other than there's a lot of work for all of you people to do.
[J.Jay Couey]: You need to go back and check every person that you think is fighting on our side and check what they did before the pandemic.
[J.Jay Couey]: Check what they did in 2020.
[J.Jay Couey]: Check what they did when there were college kids to save from transfection.
[J.Jay Couey]: And you will find a bunch of people that were trying to make a living, trying to make money, trying to tour the world and talk about one thing or another thing.
[J.Jay Couey]: But nobody was actively questioning this until 2022.
[J.Jay Couey]: The only person in the United States that lost a faculty position at a university medical school is me.
[J.Jay Couey]: No one else lost a faculty position.
[J.Jay Couey]: No one else lost a job.
[J.Jay Couey]: No one else was told to turn in your badge and keys.
[J.Jay Couey]: You're fired.
[J.Jay Couey]: Nobody.
[J.Jay Couey]: They're all richer for it.
[J.Jay Couey]: They all have extra barns for it.
[J.Jay Couey]: They all have extra houses for it.
[J.Jay Couey]: They've been traveling the world.
[J.Jay Couey]: And so now where are we in America?
[J.Jay Couey]: Where are we in America?
[J.Jay Couey]: What's the reality?
[J.Jay Couey]: Well, we're split right in half.
[J.Jay Couey]: The blue side thinks that pandemics are real, but Fauci is a hero.
[J.Jay Couey]: The red side thinks pandemics are real, but Fauci's responsible.
[J.Jay Couey]: Natural viruses would kill millions of people every year if it weren't for vaccines, while natural viruses aren't as bad as laboratory viruses, and flu vaccines don't work.
[J.Jay Couey]: This whole list is a joke.
[J.Jay Couey]: and we can go through it later.
[J.Jay Couey]: But at the bottom of this list are things that everybody agrees on.
[J.Jay Couey]: Ukraine is fighting for freedom, but it's also a neocon mess.
[J.Jay Couey]: Israel has the right to defend itself, so let's not talk about Gaza.
[J.Jay Couey]: Processed foods, seed oils, food, fast food, cosmetics, sunscreen, water, air and soil pollution, those are all bad for us.
[J.Jay Couey]: You know, we could have agreed on that 25 years ago.
[J.Jay Couey]: And so anybody that's only pushing seed oils and fast foods and cosmetics and sunscreen,
[J.Jay Couey]: and fluoride in the water is not actually fighting for us, ladies and gentlemen.
[J.Jay Couey]: Anybody like Mary Holland who has on her Twitter handle that she's been fighting for health freedom for two decades is a failure.
[J.Jay Couey]: If I had an autistic child, I would have already killed someone by now.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's the reality of this.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's why you can look at Mary Holland and think, wow, you're a failure.
[J.Jay Couey]: You've had an autistic kid for 20 years, and the best you can do is a big top tent of health freedom where you get paid $250,000 a year?
[J.Jay Couey]: She should have been drawn and quartered by now, by all the hundreds if not thousands of parents who have not gotten justice because of her, and people like Erin Seery, who don't say any meaningful things about the American legal system that have anything to do with anything about getting our grandchildren out.
[J.Jay Couey]: So I'm sorry to disappoint you.
[J.Jay Couey]: I don't have any real happy messages except to say that I'm very thankful that the internet exists and that if you wanted to, you could go back and find videos of these people in 2021 and they're not gonna be telling college kids not to get transfected.
[J.Jay Couey]: They're not gonna be telling everybody that we need to pause this.
[J.Jay Couey]: They're gonna be talking about a virus and a spike protein and amyloidosis and prion disease.
[J.Jay Couey]: And they're gonna be talking about the cardiac effects of the spike protein
[J.Jay Couey]: I know because I've been cataloging it.
[J.Jay Couey]: Everybody from Ryan Cole to Robert Malone to Lee Min Yan to Paul Urso.
[J.Jay Couey]: There's a lot of people on our side that say that they're really good guys.
[J.Jay Couey]: But when you go back and look what they were doing in 2021, they were saying there was a virus.
[J.Jay Couey]: There was definitely a virus.
[J.Jay Couey]: It was going around and people just weren't treating it right.
[J.Jay Couey]: Ryan Cole, in 2021, already knew that the molecular mechanism of ivermectin was displacing the spike protein secondary unit from the CD47 receptor.
[J.Jay Couey]: And if you go back and listen to them talk about how much they know in 2021, you hear only bullshit.
[J.Jay Couey]: Script reading.
[J.Jay Couey]: And the crazy thing is, is Robert Malone and Li Min Yan were in front of little Christian churches in America in 2021.
[J.Jay Couey]: Like, a lot of Christian churches were praying over Robert Malone and Lee Min Yan, because Robert Malone was touring the United States in Christian churches.
[J.Jay Couey]: I wonder why he would do it there?
[J.Jay Couey]: He's not really a Christ guy.
[J.Jay Couey]: He never testifies about Jesus.
[J.Jay Couey]: Once you actually do the work and see what these people have done,
[J.Jay Couey]: You can only be very terrified for where America is, because you just heard that guy talking when I first came on.
[J.Jay Couey]: He thinks that these people are going to rescue us, and that Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
[J.Jay Couey]: and his advisors are all really good guys, even though all of them agree that there was a virus, that it's probably gained a function, and that means it could come again.
[J.Jay Couey]: We better regulate that shit.
[J.Jay Couey]: and they're only talking about seed oils and cosmetics and fluoride in the water, and nobody's talking about vaccines, even though apparently Mary Holland's been trying to get the word out for almost two decades now.
[J.Jay Couey]: I worked for them for a year and a half, and now they all ignore me, not because I'm wrong, but because I'm right, because that's not their goal.
[J.Jay Couey]: Their goal is not to get to an endpoint.
[J.Jay Couey]: Their goal is not to save our grandchildren.
[J.Jay Couey]: Their goal is not to expose the criminal truth.
[J.Jay Couey]: that any doctor in this audience, please, when I'm done talking, explain to me how intramuscular injection of a combination of substances is oftentimes a good form of medicine.
[J.Jay Couey]: Because I think you're full of shit, and I don't think you've ever actually sat down and thought about it long enough to realize how stupid it is.
[J.Jay Couey]: that we allow, in America, the government to inject our children with 50 or 60 combinations of substances directly into their muscle, and claim that it's only good for them.
[J.Jay Couey]: And that when it's not good for them, it's just the rare chance that you have a genetic predisposition to it, or that we injected you wrong, like that traitor, liar, Marc Giraudeau has been going around the world saying for four years straight.
[J.Jay Couey]: And Panda's got every video he's ever done up on their website on Rumble, but none of mine.
[J.Jay Couey]: And the first one was just immunology.
[J.Jay Couey]: The way that we are here is because people have coordinated their lives across countries' borders, across news programs, across presentations of international COVID summit my ass, and across every podcast they've ever been on.
[J.Jay Couey]: And the dumber the podcast host is, the better.
[J.Jay Couey]: Because then these shitheads can say whatever they want, whenever they want to say it.
[J.Jay Couey]: And the reality is that they know that the population is not going to be 10 billion forever.
[J.Jay Couey]: And just like games of Go or games of chess, there's only so long that they can collect this data.
[J.Jay Couey]: The data of the medical data, the data of the epigenome, the genomics, the immune system, whatever they're going to sample, I don't care.
[J.Jay Couey]: The reality is, is that they want to feed medical data into an AI in order to understand humanity, understand the human genome, start to engineer us as a species.
[J.Jay Couey]: And the only way to do it is to collect data.
[J.Jay Couey]: Now do the simple frickin' math.
[J.Jay Couey]: We're not gonna have 10 billion people on the planet forever.
[J.Jay Couey]: They know that, you know that.
[J.Jay Couey]: If they showed you the population pyramid of the West, you'd probably pee your pants.
[J.Jay Couey]: So I'll show it to you now.
[J.Jay Couey]: There is only one way out right now.
[J.Jay Couey]: If we don't get our grandchildren out now, one of the best ways that we could get them out, which no one says, I want you to think of one hero, one hero from CHD, one hero from ICANN, one hero from FLCCC.
[J.Jay Couey]: Has any of them ever once even spoken the words, we should probably get our kids off social media?
[J.Jay Couey]: Of course they haven't.
[J.Jay Couey]: They work for social media.
[J.Jay Couey]: They're getting paid by it.
[J.Jay Couey]: So they can't tell you that it's gonna ruin your kids or it will enslave them with mythologies and make them vulnerable to liars because they need us on the internet.
[J.Jay Couey]: They want to digitally enslave us.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's why Robert Malone never warns about the internet.
[J.Jay Couey]: He warns about the Psywar and Children's Health Defense sells his fricking books.
[J.Jay Couey]: We got one chance to get our kids out.
[J.Jay Couey]: Watch this very carefully.
[J.Jay Couey]: There's the year above my head.
[J.Jay Couey]: This is men.
[J.Jay Couey]: This is women.
[J.Jay Couey]: Can you see something coming?
[J.Jay Couey]: Can you see something coming here, ladies and gentlemen?
[J.Jay Couey]: Can you see an increase in all cause mortality coming on both sides of this graph?
[J.Jay Couey]: You mouth breathers, you social media scrollers, can you wake up a second and see that all of these people could see this coming for decades?
[J.Jay Couey]: And that if they didn't do something about it, our healthcare systems would have gone bankrupt.
[J.Jay Couey]: Can you see that that's the reason why that guy, Dodd, has never mentioned this population pyramid?
[J.Jay Couey]: Can you see that that's why Denny Rancourt never says my name?
[J.Jay Couey]: And every time I've been on a podcast with him and mentioned this, he just says, no, I don't really understand.
[J.Jay Couey]: They saw this coming already in the 70s, ladies and gentlemen.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's the reason why America has so many octogenarians in our goddamn Congress.
[J.Jay Couey]: Because if we had people that were awake and reading and paying attention, we wouldn't be here right now, where this problem is being managed by murder and by opioids epidemic and by giving people supplementary oxygen or ventilating when they don't need it, or maybe even just not treating them with antibiotics when they otherwise needed it.
[J.Jay Couey]: And maybe it's not going on very much anymore.
[J.Jay Couey]: Maybe they're doing it all now with vaccination or with other crap.
[J.Jay Couey]: But the bottom line is, is that in 20 and 21, this was done in America and there was a coordinated effort around the world to lie about what it meant for you and for everybody else.
[J.Jay Couey]: That it was the start of something that is still going on now.
[J.Jay Couey]: And I need some of you to dare to question the possibility that even people like Kevin McKernan
[J.Jay Couey]: and Robert Malone, and Meryl Nass, Mary Holland, and Claire Craig, and Nick Hudson, and Jonathan Engler, they're all in on it, because they were all working for pharma beforehand, which means they all know that RNA cannot pandemic.
[J.Jay Couey]: They all know that this is old technology called transfection.
[J.Jay Couey]: And they all know that there would be a way out in America.
[J.Jay Couey]: They know that there is still a legal opening if we would just hold the government to strict scrutiny whenever they suspend fundamental rights.
[J.Jay Couey]: We could fix any law by just following that strict principle.
[J.Jay Couey]: that when the government has the ability to suspend fundamental rights, there should be held to strict scrutiny.
[J.Jay Couey]: And anytime you have the chance to talk to one of these fake lawyers, like Mary Holland or Aaron Seery, you should just say those simple one, that one sentence.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's the extraordinary thing about the message that I'm bringing to you.
[J.Jay Couey]: I just want to replay this thing again, because I really think it's important for you to see that this just this is just the way it is.
[J.Jay Couey]: They saw this coming.
[J.Jay Couey]: that the data, the biology, the legal space that we're in, it doesn't need books.
[J.Jay Couey]: We don't need hundreds of pages.
[J.Jay Couey]: You need to succinctly ask these people, okay, explain to me why for the last 50 years we've been excited because DNA.
[J.Jay Couey]: DNA explains why evolution could happen.
[J.Jay Couey]: DNA's got this really cool shape.
[J.Jay Couey]: DNA, DNA, DNA.
[J.Jay Couey]: And now all of a sudden we've been led to believe that RNA can do all the same things.
[J.Jay Couey]: If you spill a special RNA in a mud puddle now, it can be everywhere.
[J.Jay Couey]: And it's still everywhere.
[J.Jay Couey]: And it's evolving.
[J.Jay Couey]: I guess we're stuck with it forever.
[J.Jay Couey]: And this is one of those coordinated lies that everybody from Tony Fauci to Kevin McKernan, from Francis Collins to Pierre Kory, from Mark Lander all the way down to Sasha Latupova, they all agree that RNA can pandemic.
[J.Jay Couey]: Of course it can.
[J.Jay Couey]: And they can make some too.
[J.Jay Couey]: And this has been going on for a very long time.
[J.Jay Couey]: There's an easy way out.
[J.Jay Couey]: Gain of function is a mythology.
[J.Jay Couey]: The only thing they can do is make a lot of it.
[J.Jay Couey]: And if they make a lot of it, it might make people sick.
[J.Jay Couey]: But it doesn't make a lot of itself.
[J.Jay Couey]: It can't!
[J.Jay Couey]: That's not biologically possible.
[J.Jay Couey]: The Scooby-Doo is real.
[J.Jay Couey]: And what I mean by that is they fooled us into trying to solve this mystery.
[J.Jay Couey]: If you think for a second, even in the last five years, that you thought, wow, maybe it is a lab leak, that's exactly what I'm talking about.
[J.Jay Couey]: And there are so many people in America right now on the left who voted for Harris, who think that this is actually kind of now possible.
[J.Jay Couey]: And wow, that's crazy.
[J.Jay Couey]: And that was exactly how this five-year operation with people like Robert Malone and Meryl Nass and Jessica Rose going from COVID summit to COVID summit, that's exactly what this is about.
[J.Jay Couey]: And if you have any doubts about it, look at the SPARS pandemic document, S-P-A-R-S.
[J.Jay Couey]: There's a PDF of it and look on page 48 through about 53 and listen to the description of EpiGirl.
[J.Jay Couey]: the supposed internet personality that blows the whistle on the vaccine injuries.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's who these people are playing, especially Jessica Rose.
[J.Jay Couey]: It's only a spectacular commitment to lies.
[J.Jay Couey]: I'm one of the only people who knows that the same people that are in this group right here are also back behind the scenes at CHD, also back behind the scenes at Steve Kirsch's steering committee.
[J.Jay Couey]: This is Byram Bridle,
[J.Jay Couey]: being controlled by three other people who all know what they need to do.
[J.Jay Couey]: All know what the topic to stay on is.
[J.Jay Couey]: Sabine Hazan, she has no business being where she is.
[J.Jay Couey]: She says she's involved in 200 plus clinical trials.
[J.Jay Couey]: And the only reason why they brought her out is because she says she sequenced the virus in the gut.
[J.Jay Couey]: CHD promotes her like she's a hero.
[J.Jay Couey]: It's a joke.
[J.Jay Couey]: This guy is a guy who has sabotaged the NCI.
[J.Jay Couey]: Believe it or not.
[J.Jay Couey]: I mean, I'm going to just tell the truth because I got no, I got nothing else.
[J.Jay Couey]: And Jessica Rose, for sure, she is one of the worst meddlers of all because she has all of the prerequisite knowledge to have said everything that I've said and everything that a lot of you have said, but never said it.
[J.Jay Couey]: She has focused almost exclusively for two and a half years on the spike protein and on VAERS.
[J.Jay Couey]: And please keep in mind, ladies and gentlemen from America, what Jessica Rose did in 2020 was go around the United States on the Internet saying that there was no signal in VAERS before 2020.
[J.Jay Couey]: But remember, CHD had the movie vaxxed already in 2017 or 16.
[J.Jay Couey]: We already knew there was a signal that was being covered up because Brian Hooker already drove across the country to take the testimony and get the data from this guy who was a whistleblower at the CDC.
[J.Jay Couey]: But somehow or another, Jessica Rose, being this intrepid little mystery solver, didn't actually get any of that information and still hasn't really said any of that.
[J.Jay Couey]: You'd think she would have started out with that, right?
[J.Jay Couey]: If she was gonna be a foreigner trying to save people in America, but instead she published some hydroxychloroquine paper with Peter McCullough.
[J.Jay Couey]: All you have to do is look back at what these people were doing in 2020 and you will see that nobody was fighting.
[J.Jay Couey]: that everybody was following a script.
[J.Jay Couey]: And then look at what they did in 2021.
[J.Jay Couey]: You'll see, wow, they didn't really learn very much.
[J.Jay Couey]: This is crazy.
[J.Jay Couey]: And then you realize you do it in the math in your head and you realize that's a whole year.
[J.Jay Couey]: I wonder how many people in the audience know who Jimmy Dore is.
[J.Jay Couey]: If you do know who Jimmy Dore is, I apologize.
[J.Jay Couey]: I'm going to play a video from him because I think it's really important.
[J.Jay Couey]: But also in October of 2021, these four people were on stage on a number of churches, a number of organized talks.
[J.Jay Couey]: It's really extraordinary to watch these set of videos that you can find still on YouTube.
[J.Jay Couey]: because this is Robert Malone pushing Li Min Yan in America on American soil with this guy, Erso.
[J.Jay Couey]: You know what he says in this talk in October of 2021?
[J.Jay Couey]: He puts up a slide that has 11 drugs on it.
[J.Jay Couey]: And he said, with this list of drugs, you can pretty much cure any disease.
[J.Jay Couey]: And he's an ophthalmologist.
[J.Jay Couey]: This guy over here, this guy told us all about natural immunity to the virus and about how the spike protein was toxic.
[J.Jay Couey]: Already in 2021, he knew all about the spike protein.
[J.Jay Couey]: And interestingly, he knew that ivermectin was displacing the S2 subunit from the ACE2 receptor or from the, sorry, from the CD147 or 47 receptor of T cells.
[J.Jay Couey]: So he had molecular mechanisms for ivermectin in October of 2021.
[J.Jay Couey]: He had a list of drugs that would cure all diseases, and he's just an ophthalmologist.
[J.Jay Couey]: This guy claimed to be a whistleblower, but in this talk right here, said he didn't have time to talk about the vaccines.
[J.Jay Couey]: He was there to talk about the political implications of the freedom of speech.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's what he was up to in October of 2021, when I had just lost my job and I was still trying to get college kids to, for the shit sake, not go back to university under vaccine mandates.
[J.Jay Couey]: And he didn't even want to talk about the vaccine.
[J.Jay Couey]: Instead, he wanted to give the stage to this person who told us all about the bioweapon.
[J.Jay Couey]: And of course, remember, he's supposed to be censored, but then he got on Jimmy Dore, who's like on YouTube with millions of followers.
[J.Jay Couey]: So what does he say?
[J.Jay Couey]: What do you think he'll be like?
[J.Jay Couey]: What do you think Jimmy will be like in his first appearance on Jimmy Dore?
[J.Jay Couey]: Jimmy Dore is going to read a script.
[J.Jay Couey]: What's the script?
[SPEAKER_08]: We are pleased to have with us renowned inventor of the mRNA vaccine technology.
[SPEAKER_08]: As a researcher at the Salk Institute, he pioneered in vitro RNA transfection technology.
[J.Jay Couey]: Oh, in vitro transfection technology.
[J.Jay Couey]: You know the thing that Kevin McKernan is going around the internet right now saying that that's not Jay's word.
[J.Jay Couey]: I was doing transfection with Sabatini in 1998.
[J.Jay Couey]: They are actually admitting it now that I was right in 2021 when I lost my job at a US med school by saying these are not investigational vaccines.
[J.Jay Couey]: They're not even new.
[J.Jay Couey]: It's old shit technology that I use on my mice on my bench all the time.
[J.Jay Couey]: And I don't want my parents or people's grandkids, nevermind pregnant women or young children being given this technology.
[J.Jay Couey]: And in fact, the first time that Robert Malone is on Jimmy Dore in 2021, he's introduced as the inventor of in vitro transfection technologies.
[J.Jay Couey]: The very word that these little shits will not say.
[J.Jay Couey]: for the last five years, because if they did, they would reveal that this intellectual property is not new.
[J.Jay Couey]: There are no patents available here.
[J.Jay Couey]: This bullshit is tried, tested, and useless, except for in an academic setting.
[J.Jay Couey]: It's not investigational vaccine technology.
[J.Jay Couey]: But here we go.
[J.Jay Couey]: Let's see what he says.
[J.Jay Couey]: Is he going to go on Jimmy Dore and say, stop all the presses?
[J.Jay Couey]: This stuff's dangerous?
[J.Jay Couey]: I wonder.
[SPEAKER_08]: He subsequently pioneered many new innovations in the fields of RNA vaccination and immunization.
[SPEAKER_08]: We welcome his expertise.
[SPEAKER_08]: He is Dr. Robert Malone.
[SPEAKER_08]: Thank you for being on the show.
[SPEAKER_11]: Thanks for the opportunity, Jimmy, and I look forward to sharing ideas with you and with your audience.
[SPEAKER_08]: So you seem to be the leading guy on mRNA vaccines.
[SPEAKER_08]: Could you explain to our audience what an mRNA vaccine is and how they protect against infectious diseases?
[SPEAKER_11]: So that's a question that can carry us forward for the next two hours, or I can try to oversimplify.
[J.Jay Couey]: I don't need to even keep playing it, right?
[J.Jay Couey]: Of course, you know what he's going to do.
[J.Jay Couey]: He's not going to say they're bad.
[J.Jay Couey]: He's not going to say they're good.
[J.Jay Couey]: He's going to explain how they work, the intention, the history.
[J.Jay Couey]: Oh, I'm so smart.
[J.Jay Couey]: And he's going to bamboozle him with no message at all.
[J.Jay Couey]: In 2021, in October, I was already, I had already said for six months, we need to stop transfection in healthy humans.
[J.Jay Couey]: I was wrong about there being a virus in circulation or that the transfection might make the virus evolve in a different way.
[J.Jay Couey]: But I had also been contacted repeatedly by Gerrit van den Bosch and another other people trying to convince me that that was real.
[J.Jay Couey]: So I apologize for having fallen victim to these monkeys that called me and emailed me.
[J.Jay Couey]: and convinced me that these issues were worth arguing about.
[J.Jay Couey]: And Robert Malone is one of those people who has done that from the very beginning.
[J.Jay Couey]: Never once have they had a succinct message like, hold the presses, stop.
[J.Jay Couey]: Nothing.
[J.Jay Couey]: And you can see it because the videos are all over the Internet.
[J.Jay Couey]: And he's not censored.
[J.Jay Couey]: He was on with Neil Farage.
[J.Jay Couey]: He was on all the Fox programs.
[J.Jay Couey]: He was opposed by Alex Berenson, who was also on Joe Rogan.
[J.Jay Couey]: He was discussed by these two guys, one of which is a Stanford professor on their YouTube channels.
[J.Jay Couey]: He's been on the Tommy podcast like 1,000 times with people as crazy as Stephen Hadfield.
[J.Jay Couey]: This is not a censored person.
[J.Jay Couey]: He is present on the internet in certain cognitive circles, the libertarian circles, the conservative circles, the Christian circles.
[J.Jay Couey]: And he was pushed there because he's wrangling cats there.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's his job.
[J.Jay Couey]: And that's why all these people also agreed to talk about him and to argue about him and to say, yeah, Robert Malone's kind of weird.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's why he was on the news.
[SPEAKER_07]: This is Dr. Robert Malone in the late 1980s when he conducted what Nature magazine calls a landmark experiment in San Diego on the path to the COVID-19 vaccines.
[SPEAKER_07]: And this is Dr. Malone today.
[SPEAKER_09]: Regarding the genetic COVID vaccines, the science is settled.
[SPEAKER_09]: They're not working.
[J.Jay Couey]: They're not working.
[J.Jay Couey]: So again, it's not that it's dangerous.
[J.Jay Couey]: It's not that transfection is an old technology that would have been criminal to roll out in healthy people, which is what I'm saying.
[J.Jay Couey]: He's saying they're not working, which might be because they chose the toxic spike, according to Ryan Cole.
[J.Jay Couey]: It might be because they're not using the list of 11 magic drugs that Erso has that can cure any disease.
[J.Jay Couey]: Or maybe it's because they're not listening to the insights of Jill Glasspool Malone.
[J.Jay Couey]: Maybe Lynn Finn has some special insights on what's really going on here.
[J.Jay Couey]: No, ladies and gentlemen, America is under attack.
[J.Jay Couey]: These are a group of coordinated liars.
[J.Jay Couey]: I don't know how many of them are witting participants and how many of them just were bamboozled by the champagne and the hot tubs and the photographs of their shoes together.
[J.Jay Couey]: I don't know how they all got fooled, but I know that they are all not playing for our grandchildren.
[J.Jay Couey]: And they may be coordinatedly working with people in your countries to do the same thing there.
[J.Jay Couey]: I think they work with Claire Craig and with Jonathan Engler, and I think they work with Nick Hudson, and there's many more.
[J.Jay Couey]: In fact, I would go so far as to say I wonder how many people in the audience know who Jikki Leaks is, but I'm pretty sure Jikki Leaks is an account that all of these people use.
[J.Jay Couey]: Now, the important thing to understand here is that this is not going to stop.
[J.Jay Couey]: That was him featured on ABC News in 2022.
[J.Jay Couey]: And if we keep dropping these things in, you'll just keep seeing that they were all over the Internet.
[J.Jay Couey]: And people continue to agree that they were the people to talk about.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's because weaponized piles of money use the Internet to convince us who to argue with and what to argue about.
[J.Jay Couey]: And so if you're arguing with people on the internet, or you're cheering for these people with podcasts, like Dr. Drew, or Viva Frye, or Allison Morrow, then you're cheering for them already.
[J.Jay Couey]: You're lost.
[J.Jay Couey]: These are all videos on YouTube.
[J.Jay Couey]: These are all videos that are not censored, ladies and gentlemen.
[J.Jay Couey]: Wake up!
[J.Jay Couey]: This is a theater.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's why when you look at this guy, Stephen Bartlett, his diary of a CEO podcast, it's hysterical because after having all of the standard people on talking about nuclear bombs or talking about how I made a billion dollars or talking about AI, oh, wow, wait, we also can cure cancer, but don't say that it was Warburg in the early 1900s.
[J.Jay Couey]: who we can have him on.
[J.Jay Couey]: Oh, we can have this faker on.
[J.Jay Couey]: This is another one of those people who's not really speaking out usefully.
[J.Jay Couey]: There's another one who's not speaking out usefully.
[J.Jay Couey]: But now BBC says this guy's spreading misinformation, and some of the misinformation he's spreading is Bret Weinstein and Russell Brandt and this guy.
[J.Jay Couey]: Oh, he's so bad.
[J.Jay Couey]: And all they're doing is saying that the shot is bad.
[J.Jay Couey]: They're not saying anything about 2020 and the murder that occurred.
[J.Jay Couey]: And that's why now Brett Weinstein gets to go on and say the BBC World Service isn't treating me right and continue to rise as some kind of fake hero in America.
[J.Jay Couey]: Make no mistake about it, Brett Weinstein, in the beginning of the COVID for a whole year,
[J.Jay Couey]: was wearing a bandana and woodshop goggles and locked down hard and encouraging people, especially old people, to lock down hard.
[J.Jay Couey]: He actually had a member of Drastic on his podcast in 2020 to talk about the lab leak before I ever even knew who the hell he was.
[J.Jay Couey]: Here's one of the most famous no-virus people, Andy Kaufman, shaking hands with some guy from New York.
[J.Jay Couey]: I think that's Cuomo.
[J.Jay Couey]: in 2019 because he's just getting a grant to make some bio tracker to prevent suicide in New York prisons.
[J.Jay Couey]: But I'm sure he's a real good guy.
[J.Jay Couey]: Sure.
[J.Jay Couey]: After that, you know, he just immediately spoke out about the no virus thing because he really wants to fight for our grandkids.
[J.Jay Couey]: And here is Steven Hatfield.
[J.Jay Couey]: Steven Hatfill, the guy associated with Ebola in Rhodesia back in the day, crossing paths with people like Meryl Nass a couple times in the anthrax story all the way back to 2011.
[J.Jay Couey]: This guy was the guy they originally thought and blamed for the anthrax leak in 2001.
[J.Jay Couey]: Ladies and gentlemen, this guy has been on a podcast with Robert Malone at least 15 times in the last three years.
[J.Jay Couey]: This guy was on stage in Romania with Nick Hudson, with Denny Rancor, with Brett Weinstein, with Meryl Nass, with Robert Malone, with Jill Glasspool Malone, with Ryan Cole in Romania.
[J.Jay Couey]: Because I guess Romania is the center of the fight.
[J.Jay Couey]: And that was their fifth COVID international summit in November of 2023.
[J.Jay Couey]: You can find the videos.
[J.Jay Couey]: These people have not saved us.
[J.Jay Couey]: These people have pretended to save us.
[J.Jay Couey]: They are part of an elaborate hoax.
[J.Jay Couey]: And I color these yellow so that you understand how many years have gone by since 2015 when Mary Holland was on a program in America telling us that it was some component of the MMR vaccine that hurt her son and that she needed them tested.
[J.Jay Couey]: And now, 10 years later, we have Steve Kirsch and Brett Weinstein promising us that Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
[J.Jay Couey]: is going to get to the bottom of this, and we're going to get the data, and then we're going to have tested, safe vaccines in five years.
[J.Jay Couey]: They're actually saying that right now, if you pay attention.
[J.Jay Couey]: And these same people have promoted somebody by the name of Sasha Latupova.
[J.Jay Couey]: Sasha Latupova's daughter has been an internet phenomenon since she was 11.
[J.Jay Couey]: An internet phenomenon full of profanity and racism and drug use way before she was 18 years old.
[J.Jay Couey]: And in fact, she was featured three times on the Alex Jones program in 2019.
[J.Jay Couey]: This woman, a retired pharma exec,
[J.Jay Couey]: who had a company in the 90s that was bought by Pfizer.
[J.Jay Couey]: This woman is supposedly also part of the team that's saving us, was on stage with Meryl Nass and Robert Malone and Mike Palmer of the
[J.Jay Couey]: Doctors for COVID Ethics group and Asim Malhotra all on the same stage at the same time in January of 2023 in Stockholm, Sweden, talking about the psychological warfare and the bio warfare and the fact that the US military did it.
[J.Jay Couey]: It's all one little coordinated group of liars.
[J.Jay Couey]: And they are an international little coordinated group with people, again, like Claire Craig.
[J.Jay Couey]: Look at her resume.
[J.Jay Couey]: She was a genome collector before the pandemic.
[J.Jay Couey]: She believes that if you give the AI enough genomes, it'll solve problems.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's her career.
[J.Jay Couey]: And that's why she was not on a paper to say that we shouldn't question the PCR and we shouldn't stop testing with PCR.
[J.Jay Couey]: She said that we should use different primers.
[J.Jay Couey]: And who did she say that with?
[J.Jay Couey]: She said that in 2020 with Kevin McKernan and Mike Eden, Thomas Binder, Claire Craig, and a few other people that when you track them down and figure it out, they all agree there definitely was a virus.
[J.Jay Couey]: Even Mike Yeadon has since recently been promoting, not me, but Sasha Latapova, this mother of SOF.
[J.Jay Couey]: This little girl was probably abused and used by the American system, the same system that Alex Jones is a part of.
[J.Jay Couey]: I pray that there's nobody in this audience that still thinks that Alex Jones might be a good guy.
[J.Jay Couey]: These people,
[J.Jay Couey]: These people all know, okay?
[J.Jay Couey]: I'm just circling them because it's time.
[J.Jay Couey]: It's time.
[J.Jay Couey]: There's no more buts about it, okay?
[J.Jay Couey]: These people know.
[J.Jay Couey]: They may know in the sense of, don't tell me anything.
[J.Jay Couey]: I don't want to know.
[J.Jay Couey]: I don't want to see behind the curtain.
[J.Jay Couey]: Don't tell me what's really going on.
[J.Jay Couey]: I'll just shut up.
[J.Jay Couey]: I'll just do this.
[J.Jay Couey]: But they know.
[J.Jay Couey]: They know that they are participating in our governance.
[J.Jay Couey]: They know that they are trying to infiltrate the Trump administration or control it or influence it.
[J.Jay Couey]: None of these people are clueless.
[J.Jay Couey]: It's not possible anymore.
[J.Jay Couey]: We've been at it for six years, ladies and gentlemen.
[J.Jay Couey]: Six years of your life has been ruined by these people.
[J.Jay Couey]: Because rather than making useful progress against the criminals that have led us to believe that RNA can pandemic and that transfection is good for pregnant kids, pregnant women, excuse me, we are still following these people around.
[J.Jay Couey]: They're still leading us around by the nose and it's got to stop.
[J.Jay Couey]: It's got to stop now.
[J.Jay Couey]: It's December of 2024, and reality is that right now on American social media, on American TV, the discussion is very succinct.
[J.Jay Couey]: It looks like they covered up a lab leak.
[J.Jay Couey]: It looks like gain-of-function viruses are real.
[J.Jay Couey]: And it looks like bird flu might also be a gain-of-function virus.
[J.Jay Couey]: And many of our heroes are also pushing this narrative.
[J.Jay Couey]: And then, of course, you have the far left people saying that Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
[J.Jay Couey]: is going to ruin the world if you approve him.
[J.Jay Couey]: And so we've actually had some Nobel Prize winners recently sign a petition saying you shouldn't confirm Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
[J.Jay Couey]: And so wouldn't it be a real disappointment if he didn't get confirmed and Donald Trump just went back to the well and confirmed somebody from Big Pharma?
[J.Jay Couey]: Well, what do you think's going to happen?
[J.Jay Couey]: We haven't taught our children what gain-of-function mythology is yet.
[J.Jay Couey]: We haven't taught them all about the next virus coming.
[J.Jay Couey]: We haven't taught them that vaccines are the way out.
[J.Jay Couey]: And until we teach our kids that, they have failed.
[J.Jay Couey]: They still need us to believe.
[J.Jay Couey]: They still need us to pay attention.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's why we are here in 2024, and still nobody can usefully summarize what happened.
[J.Jay Couey]: They murdered people and lied about it in order to make people believe
[J.Jay Couey]: that RNA can pandemic in order to make people believe that you can make special RNA and then they can even more pandemic like harder.
[J.Jay Couey]: They made people believe that the vaccines that they rolled out were new and that they worked, but they rushed them and they were contaminated.
[J.Jay Couey]: And I said they were going to do this in 2021.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's why these people came to my house.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's why they came to my house because they had to.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's why they haven't been to anyone else's house in all this decade.
[J.Jay Couey]: So the COVID shot is bad.
[J.Jay Couey]: Don't talk about 2020s, what they're doing right now, and they're solving the Scooby-Doo.
[J.Jay Couey]: We've got the mystery solved.
[J.Jay Couey]: And now the problem is, of course, is that we were here in 2020.
[J.Jay Couey]: In July of 2020, the hypothesis that's on that page right there, still available on my YouTube channel, is that they are misconstruing a background with spread.
[J.Jay Couey]: a background signal with spread.
[J.Jay Couey]: And now the only way that I can really adequately explain that to you is to try to come up with an analogy for it, and so this is as good as it's going to get.
[J.Jay Couey]: But I want you to imagine that all the cars in the world are invisible, they're microscopic, you can't see them.
[J.Jay Couey]: But because you've been told you have cars, and there are cars everywhere, then you believe in the cars.
[J.Jay Couey]: Now, the reality is, is that everybody has a car in their garage or a car in their driveway.
[J.Jay Couey]: And so if we rolled out a test or gave you special glasses that would allow you to see the rubber or allowed you to see the metal, then you could go outside and you could confirm it was there.
[J.Jay Couey]: But now I want you to imagine an even more malevolent scenario where you had to go to your doctor and then your doctor could confirm it for you.
[J.Jay Couey]: He would get on the internet with this special tool and he would scan where you parked and, oh yeah, you have a car.
[J.Jay Couey]: And now that's all that they've done with virology and with the pandemic.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's all that would be necessary.
[J.Jay Couey]: And one of the things that I think has really slipped my mind until right now, these past few weeks, is to realize that while all of these fake meddlers like, again, Robert Malone and Kevin McKernan and all these people have been arguing about the virus,
[J.Jay Couey]: They have been very, very conveniently perpetuating the idea of the virus and not at all speaking out against the tests.
[J.Jay Couey]: And I would be willing to bet that if you go back far enough and you look at some of these videos like I have, you're going to be surprised at how many of these people in 2021 start out their talk by saying, my conflicts of interest are on the page.
[J.Jay Couey]: I have some, I have a small financial interest in a lateral flow test.
[J.Jay Couey]: I have a small interest in a PCR test.
[J.Jay Couey]: I have a small interest in an antibody test.
[J.Jay Couey]: They all said it.
[J.Jay Couey]: They all said it, but it's too late now to do anything about it, right?
[J.Jay Couey]: You can't go back.
[J.Jay Couey]: There'd be no point in watching those videos from before.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's why we have this list of things that's so crazy.
[J.Jay Couey]: It's hard to even, it's hard to believe that we are here.
[J.Jay Couey]: where everybody pretty much believes all the same things.
[J.Jay Couey]: Pandemics are real, but Fauci's either a hero or responsible.
[J.Jay Couey]: That natural viruses are real, but gain-of-function viruses are worth, and vaccines do something.
[J.Jay Couey]: Millions have died of COVID, but lockdowns and masks prevented many more.
[J.Jay Couey]: Oh, there was something strange for sure.
[J.Jay Couey]: Mary Holland, Meryl Ness, they had COVID a couple, three times.
[J.Jay Couey]: I mean, Harvey Reich told me that the third time that he had COVID was the worst, and he was already using hydroxychloroquine as a prophylactic, and it still kicked his ass.
[J.Jay Couey]: The vaccines might work, but they're not tested.
[J.Jay Couey]: And RFK is going to get all the data.
[J.Jay Couey]: Vaccines stand as one of the greatest medical advances of all, in all history.
[J.Jay Couey]: This is a pretty big problem.
[J.Jay Couey]: If we have a significant fraction of our population believing that vaccines are good, if in reality, intramuscular injection is stupid.
[J.Jay Couey]: But funny, since I've started to say intramuscular injection is stupid, the first time I actually said it was on a podcast called the Germ Warfare Podcast.
[J.Jay Couey]: A South African, good friends with Nick Hudson.
[J.Jay Couey]: I actually tested Nick.
[J.Jay Couey]: And sure enough, about three days after that podcast, about three weeks before the podcast would actually be released by Nick's friend, Nick was already tweeting, intramuscular injection is dumb.
[J.Jay Couey]: He's not tweeting it anymore, of course, because I was able to call him out very succinctly on how he did it and why it was from that person.
[J.Jay Couey]: This is how they do it.
[J.Jay Couey]: This is the reason why, on the Panda website, the three presentations that I did that were all over an hour are not there.
[J.Jay Couey]: Because Nick Hudson's job, and Jessica Hockett's job, and Jonathan Engler's job, and Robert F. Kennedy's job when I was working on the book was to figure out what I knew and try to get me to focus on the lab leak.
[J.Jay Couey]: And once I started saying that the lab leak was an impossibility, that RNA cannot pandemic is a better and more succinct way to challenge this narrative, everything unraveled.
[J.Jay Couey]: And so what else do we have?
[J.Jay Couey]: Lab viruses are real and dangerous and can be made by anyone, is what Robert Malone tells us, and so we need to strictly regulate their use.
[J.Jay Couey]: Well, over here, they agree the same thing, but we already strictly regulate their use, so there's nothing to worry about.
[J.Jay Couey]: How about sex and gender?
[J.Jay Couey]: Did you ever think about this as a trap?
[J.Jay Couey]: Because it is.
[J.Jay Couey]: It's a trap, because if you start arguing about sex being determined by chromosomes or by genes, then you are on a slippery slope to saying that everything is caused by genes, which is where they want you.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's where that bad biology 101 that I'm trying to fight now, that I think I need to write a textbook to oppose, is actually getting you.
[J.Jay Couey]: Where you think that the only useful contribution to you is found in your genes, and if you understood those genes, then you'd understand 98% of what makes you, you.
[J.Jay Couey]: And that is the biggest lie that the Human Genome Project and Francis Collins and Mark Lander and
[J.Jay Couey]: The head of research and development for the Human Genome Project, Kevin McKernan, have told us over these last 20 years.
[J.Jay Couey]: The Human Genome Project hasn't even begun until they started sequencing everybody, and they still can't really sequence everybody.
[J.Jay Couey]: They can just look for different landmarks across genomes and hope that they find signals.
[J.Jay Couey]: So this is, again, part of their illusion.
[J.Jay Couey]: They want you to fight about this.
[J.Jay Couey]: They want you to come on the obviously sex is determined by chromosomes, just like autism is obviously determined by genes.
[J.Jay Couey]: So this is where, of course, everybody agrees, but not really agrees about Ukraine, about Israel and about processed foods and sunscreen and whatever.
[J.Jay Couey]: And again, I'm trying to make the argument that these are all easy.
[J.Jay Couey]: These are just silly traps.
[J.Jay Couey]: You can argue about Israel all you want.
[J.Jay Couey]: You're never going to win unless you start talking about the fact that Palantir's AI is being used and tested for targeting there.
[J.Jay Couey]: Unless you start talking about the fact that AI was also used during the rollout of the vaccine in Israel.
[J.Jay Couey]: So just one big test lab for everything.
[J.Jay Couey]: You start talking about it that way then you realize the entire international community has some reason to pay attention Because they all have satellites so they can get data to The data is probably up to the highest bidder, right?
[J.Jay Couey]: I mean all the data that gets extracted all the algorithms that get fine-tuned in Israel are gonna be up for the highest bidder I mean, come on.
[J.Jay Couey]: What planet do we live on ladies and gentlemen?
[J.Jay Couey]: How are we gonna start to be realistic at some point?
[J.Jay Couey]: Oh
[J.Jay Couey]: They need us to destroy America because America is the last legislative haven where some useful progress could still legally be made.
[J.Jay Couey]: Canadians, already gone.
[J.Jay Couey]: Australians, already gone.
[J.Jay Couey]: The, you know, English, I don't know what you guys can do over there in the UK, but I think you're kind of already gone too.
[J.Jay Couey]: We still have fundamental rights that we could still use and protect.
[J.Jay Couey]: They're almost gone.
[J.Jay Couey]: but we don't have a lawyer that's willing to do it, so they're almost gone for a reason.
[J.Jay Couey]: Remember, understanding this is really about understanding that because we participated in this five-year social media fiasco circus performance, we have accepted they're monsters that include gain-of-function viruses, that include contaminated vaccines,
[J.Jay Couey]: that include Marburg virus, or monkeypox, or disease X, and even autism.
[J.Jay Couey]: Even the very word autism is a word that is theirs, a construct that is theirs, and arguing about it accepts the premises that these originally, what we should have been talking about, are just chemically and intramuscularly injected damaged kids.
[J.Jay Couey]: They have been assaulted, they have been intramuscularly raped, they have been chemically assaulted, they have been exposed to a toxin in the worst way possible, and therefore we don't need to have a word like autism to describe it, where there's a combination of, I don't know, let's ask James Lyons Weiler, a combination of environmental and genetic causes.
[J.Jay Couey]: Intramuscular injection is the worst way to be exposed to a toxin.
[J.Jay Couey]: Period.
[J.Jay Couey]: And if you inject it in your vein, then it's gonna be pretty hard for you to disassociate the temporal injection with the pain or the suffering that you get from it.
[J.Jay Couey]: If you inject it intramuscularly and it takes three weeks for the pain and the suffering to start, then that's pretty good for the toxin.
[J.Jay Couey]: It's pretty good for the blame.
[J.Jay Couey]: It's pretty good for the poisoner.
[J.Jay Couey]: And once you understand that as a doctor, I don't know how you can not just pause and cry.
[J.Jay Couey]: and realize that all of these things were dumb.
[J.Jay Couey]: That intramuscular injection is a skillless way to administer medicine and a actually inappropriate way to administer almost any medicine besides a absolutely pure chemical diluted in saline.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's the reality.
[J.Jay Couey]: that we have been fooled into believing that you can combine inert and active substances in combination and then inject them in the muscle and usefully augment an otherwise healthy child, an otherwise healthy pregnant woman.
[J.Jay Couey]: And we have to start there, because arguing about a virus or arguing about PCR tests or arguing about ivermectin is missing that fundamental frickin' point.
[J.Jay Couey]: That every doctor, I think, on Earth could, in theory,
[J.Jay Couey]: come to his or her own conclusion about, like, wow, I get it.
[J.Jay Couey]: It is dumb.
[J.Jay Couey]: And so this list is important to understand only from the perspective of what they have been able to accomplish with social media.
[J.Jay Couey]: We have allowed this.
[J.Jay Couey]: Our acquiescence to social media has allowed our precision cognitive fracturing
[J.Jay Couey]: And now it's only a question of how they will take advantage of it and what they will add to it.
[J.Jay Couey]: And the only way out of this is for our children to get off of social media.
[J.Jay Couey]: and to learn biology.
[J.Jay Couey]: That means you have to learn biology, too, and I can't do it for you.
[J.Jay Couey]: Metaphorically, we're all overweight and haven't exercised for 20 years, and we have lots and lots, months and months of exercise to string together before we're going to understand what happened to us.
[J.Jay Couey]: No one can do it for you.
[J.Jay Couey]: There's not a two-hour stream that I can do that will explain it to you better than I've already done it.
[J.Jay Couey]: You actually have to do the work to convince yourself that they lied.
[J.Jay Couey]: Because that's the same work that you did to convince yourself this was a lab leak over the last five years.
[J.Jay Couey]: The same work that you convinced yourself that they were lying about something or covering something up.
[J.Jay Couey]: That same work needs to be undone and it can only be undone by each of us to ourselves.
[J.Jay Couey]: And the way to do it for me as a study is for you to try and disprove these statements.
[J.Jay Couey]: As a doctor or as a PhD, try to disprove this statement, that intramuscular injection of any combination of substances with the intent of augmenting the immune system is dumb.
[J.Jay Couey]: If there's a good example of it, we should have that exception on the list and understand why it's an exception.
[J.Jay Couey]: And if there isn't, then this might be one of the most important messages in recent history.
[J.Jay Couey]: Transfection of healthy humans was always criminal because it's an old,
[J.Jay Couey]: proven technology to work great in vitro and be ridiculous.
[J.Jay Couey]: for modifying or augmenting a healthy human's health.
[J.Jay Couey]: So transfection, the master of transfection, the inventor of transfection technology from the Salk Institute, Robert Malone is not a hero.
[J.Jay Couey]: He is working on the same team as Tony Fauci, the same team as Gabby, the same team as The Who.
[J.Jay Couey]: It's all one big show.
[J.Jay Couey]: And the best way to get that is RNA cannot pandemic.
[J.Jay Couey]: It cannot pandemic.
[J.Jay Couey]: It cannot self-perpetuate.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's ridiculous.
[J.Jay Couey]: And I think that any academic biologist that knows a little bit can do the legwork to find out that that's definitely not possible.
[J.Jay Couey]: They're not equivalent.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's no way.
[J.Jay Couey]: It's just not possible.
[J.Jay Couey]: So I really think that studying biology is the way out and trying to understand the illusion that was created by the Human Genome Project.
[J.Jay Couey]: They didn't complete anything.
[J.Jay Couey]: It was a starting gun.
[J.Jay Couey]: And that's all it was.
[J.Jay Couey]: And they still need to collect most of the data.
[J.Jay Couey]: And they still need to build most of the computers.
[J.Jay Couey]: And even after they do all of that, we're still not going to be where Ray Kurzweiler says we're going to be in 2040, where all diseases are cured and everybody can upload their consciousness.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's just
[J.Jay Couey]: It's irreverent.
[J.Jay Couey]: It's blasphemous.
[J.Jay Couey]: It's irreverent to the sacred irreducible complexity of creation that was given to us by our Creator.
[J.Jay Couey]: And I think that that's also part of this.
[J.Jay Couey]: It is a spiritual war in the sense of they don't want you to have anything remotely resembling
[J.Jay Couey]: a spiritual side to your life, or a connection to what is sacred right outside of your window, in your garden, and in the manifestation of your grandchildren.
[J.Jay Couey]: I think that everybody has a way out.
[J.Jay Couey]: It's just a question of whether or not we can present these ideas to people.
[J.Jay Couey]: And you don't have to say my name, I don't care.
[J.Jay Couey]: Um, I don't I don't you don't need to send them to my website.
[J.Jay Couey]: You just need to share these ideas back here.
[J.Jay Couey]: I really think that that these ways and trying to succinctly summarize things is really important.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's also why in America.
[J.Jay Couey]: i think it's important if you know a lawyer to ask them about strict scrutiny and about the rational basis test because these two terms are the key to ending the prep act these two terms are the key to striking any of these laws as unconstitutional because
[J.Jay Couey]: These unconstitutional laws allow the suspension of fundamental rights without holding the government to strict scrutiny, but instead requiring only the rational basis test.
[J.Jay Couey]: Now, I'm sorry to toot my own horn, but that's probably the best
[J.Jay Couey]: that that legal argument and and problem in america has ever been stated by anyone in the freedom movement ever erin seri mary holland robert f kennedy junior any of them
[J.Jay Couey]: None of them have ever come close to saying it as succinctly as that.
[J.Jay Couey]: And it's not because I'm oversimplifying it, it is because that is how malevolent the place we are right now is.
[J.Jay Couey]: We don't need to talk about virology, we need to talk about RNA being unable to do what virology says it does all the time.
[J.Jay Couey]: We don't need to talk about a particular vaccine or about contamination because intramuscular injection, as far as I can tell, is just dumb.
[J.Jay Couey]: And now imagine how different it would be to oppose the vaccine schedule in America, not by complaining about the calendar or about the number of shots, but about the methodology in general, because that's what these two statements do.
[J.Jay Couey]: I'm open for questions.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's about all I had.
[J.Jay Couey]: I don't know.
[J.Jay Couey]: I don't want to be angry, but I am.
[J.Jay Couey]: Because my family has had everything on the line for five years and I have come to understand that very few people have had what we've had on the line.
[J.Jay Couey]: And so I'm angry.
[J.Jay Couey]: I am.
[J.Jay Couey]: I'm angry.
[J.Jay Couey]: I'm angry about people like Nick Hudson who continue to pretend like they are trying to help.
[J.Jay Couey]: But just honestly, everybody in this audience, everybody that sees this video, test it.
[J.Jay Couey]: Go to Rumble and search Pandata and KUI.
[J.Jay Couey]: And you will find no videos, but if you do it with Rose or Nass or Malone or Getzko or anybody, you will find videos of them.
[J.Jay Couey]: Even Matt Crawford has videos.
[J.Jay Couey]: So we are talking about a purposeful cover-up of anyone that gets remotely close to the real truth.
[J.Jay Couey]: Not that there's no virology or no molecular biology, but these people are coordinatedly lying.
[J.Jay Couey]: And they murdered people and lied about it.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's how they managed to pull this off.
[J.Jay Couey]: And they did it in a lot of places.
[J.Jay Couey]: They did it in Scotland, and in the Netherlands, and anywhere they had excess old people, they murdered them.
[J.Jay Couey]: And you know they did.
[J.Jay Couey]: But the difference is, if they murdered them, then why are we talking about COVID?
[J.Jay Couey]: There wasn't one.
[J.Jay Couey]: Anyway, that's it.
[J.Jay Couey]: I'm open to questions, of course.
[J.Jay Couey]: Thank you.
[Charles Kovess]: JJ, thank you so much.
[Charles Kovess]: Since I'm Australasia's passion provocateur.
[J.Jay Couey]: I think you're still muted there, Charles.
[Charles Kovess]: So I'm here.
[Charles Kovess]: Can you hear me, Lex?
[J.Jay Couey]: I can hear you.
[J.Jay Couey]: Oh, I don't have it up.
[J.Jay Couey]: Sorry.
[J.Jay Couey]: There we go.
[Charles Kovess]: There you are.
[Charles Kovess]: All right, JJ.
[Charles Kovess]: Yes, I made a couple of comments, but you missed them.
[Charles Kovess]: So I am.
[Charles Kovess]: a passion provocateur, and I love anger.
[Charles Kovess]: There's a couple of great comments, including from Bobby, you know, righteous anger is sacred.
[Charles Kovess]: I point out, JJ, Richard Ameling is here, and he also lost his tenure as an academic in 2021.
[Charles Kovess]: Oh, okay.
[J.Jay Couey]: Well, there you go.
[Charles Kovess]: We've got one.
[Charles Kovess]: Richard, please say hello, because really I want
[Charles Kovess]: Jay to meet one of these not alone.
[Charles Kovess]: Now, I have a string of questions, and then we'll get to- Hi, Jay Jay.
[Charles Kovess]: Here's Richard.
[J.Jay Couey]: Richard.
[J.Jay Couey]: Oh, yes.
[J.Jay Couey]: I recognize Richard.
[J.Jay Couey]: Hello.
[J.Jay Couey]: Wow.
[J.Jay Couey]: How are you doing?
[J.Jay Couey]: It's been a while.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's stay in touch, my friend.
[SPEAKER_03]: A lot to talk about.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[Charles Kovess]: Very good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[Charles Kovess]: All right.
[Charles Kovess]: So there you are.
[Charles Kovess]: Jay, you're not alone.
[Charles Kovess]: Many of us here have lost, not our tenure, but lost our careers, and certainly I'm acting for people who have.
[Charles Kovess]: Now, Jay, give us three names before I go to Lex.
[Charles Kovess]: and Stephen's having a bit of rest this morning, so I'm going to Lex.
[Charles Kovess]: I think Sandra had her hand up first, so we'll go to Sandra first.
[Charles Kovess]: Give us three names and, you know, what I'm grappling with, and after, you know, moderating some 320 such meetings, plus another 150 in other places, plus speaking many times, the words of Judy Majkovic keep ringing in my ears.
[Charles Kovess]: Don't fucking jab anyone.
[Charles Kovess]: don't inject stuff.
[Charles Kovess]: I saw something where she's being retained by Bobby Kennedy, and this whole idea of this complexity in the times that you've presented to us, it's really wonderful for you to courageously come out and say, here's what I say, test it.
[Charles Kovess]: I think it's
[Charles Kovess]: It's excellent that you say, hey, my videos are not up on Panda.
[Charles Kovess]: You go, wow, that's interesting.
[Charles Kovess]: That's a piece of fact, not an opinion.
[Charles Kovess]: My question is, before we go to Sandra, give me three names of people who
[Charles Kovess]: People watching this recording and here, you think have not been corrupted, and I guarantee to you I haven't been corrupted as best I can tell.
[Charles Kovess]: No one has bought me, no one has given me money.
[Charles Kovess]: The comment is made in the chat that if anyone's living the high life and earning big bucks, there's a big chance they've been bought.
[Charles Kovess]: Give us three names where you reckon, yep, what they say can be relied upon.
[J.Jay Couey]: As far as I know, Thomas Binder, I know I listed him as being part of that original PCR paper, the Corman-Jorson report that was really Claire Craig and Kevin McKernan.
[J.Jay Couey]: He's on that paper, but my guess is that
[J.Jay Couey]: Like a couple other people, I think he was brought in or roped in with these people in hopes of controlling him.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's also why they put him in a hospital.
[J.Jay Couey]: I do think Stephen Frost is also a good guy.
[J.Jay Couey]: You're a good guy.
[J.Jay Couey]: I mean, the bottom line is, is that you guys have never said one thing and done another.
[J.Jay Couey]: When you tell me my video is going to be up, it's up.
[J.Jay Couey]: And when you tell me my video is not gonna be up until tomorrow because you slept overslept and that's what you tell me but some of these people Make a recording of me and say it's gonna be up in three weeks and then it's not up and before that three weeks is over You know, there's lots of people that are saying things the way that I said it and they did that enough a number of times so I would say Steven and you of course, I would say Thomas Binder
[J.Jay Couey]: on
[J.Jay Couey]: is one of the worst players in this.
[J.Jay Couey]: Sasha Latupov's private connect conversations with me are absolutely terrible.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's the really strange part about it that I've never added yet.
[J.Jay Couey]: And I can only say to everybody that if you could read all the direct messages and the signal chats that I have with these people, you'd probably be in tears and wonder why I haven't already lost my mind.
[J.Jay Couey]: I really do say that without joking.
[J.Jay Couey]: I think that God gave me three healthy kids because if he had given me a vaccine-damaged child, there would have been blood.
[J.Jay Couey]: Certainly by now.
[J.Jay Couey]: I would not have been able to organize a big top tent of health freedom and try to speak that way about anything.
[J.Jay Couey]: And I don't understand how they can.
[Charles Kovess]: And Jay, just to reinforce my journey, I'm on the committee of the Australian Vaccination Risk Network that was founded in 1994.
[Charles Kovess]: I'm the treasurer of that organisation.
[Charles Kovess]: I wasn't in it with 94.
[Charles Kovess]: 14 years ago, I was advising on legal strategy to help parents in Australia whose kids were damaged by vaccines.
[Charles Kovess]: So 14 years I've been on this journey, but that was my awakening, even though I've been heavily into health since 1965.
[Charles Kovess]: It was only 14 years ago that I was awakened, and that's why your words ring so true to me, because nobody who knows anything about this can possibly say that these things are bloody safe.
[Charles Kovess]: And the data is clear, and it's the ignoring, and that's what Stephen Frost says.
[Charles Kovess]: And we've often said here, many doctors have
[Charles Kovess]: put injections into people because they say, I've got a mortgage to pay.
[Charles Kovess]: Now, the question, I don't want to, so I just make that up.
[Charles Kovess]: I've been on this 14 year journey and I would never, I would, you know, this whole issue, I just want, that's why Judy Malkovich's words are so powerful for all of us.
[Charles Kovess]: Don't inject anything because you don't know what's in it.
[Charles Kovess]: We're still having debates about any shit that's in any vaccines.
[Charles Kovess]: We still don't know.
[Charles Kovess]: We tried to do an investigation of what this vitamin K is in these bloody injections.
[Charles Kovess]: So what I want all of us to think about, Jay, and thank you for your honesty, is I admire your genius as does Stephen.
[Charles Kovess]: So how do we harness Jay?
[Charles Kovess]: Everybody, don't answer that question, Jay, but my proposition to any of you is, Jay, what problem do you want to solve?
[Charles Kovess]: In other words, Buckminster Fuller, I refer you all to Buckminster Fuller, each one of you has a role to play in this game.
[Charles Kovess]: Jay, what's the role that you want to play?
[Charles Kovess]: That's what you're supposed to be doing.
[Charles Kovess]: What's the problem you want to solve?
[Charles Kovess]: And let's find someone who's going to pay you appropriately for solving it.
[Charles Kovess]: I'll talk to you offline on that.
[Charles Kovess]: But all of you, there are some people here who are passionate about this cause, but you haven't worked out how you want to add
[Charles Kovess]: value by solving a problem.
[Charles Kovess]: And my promise to you is if you work that out, you won't have to be destitute.
[Charles Kovess]: And being destitute is a shitty place to be.
[Charles Kovess]: So don't be destitute.
[Charles Kovess]: So don't play that victim game of being destitute, because you will be rewarded for solving a problem that needs to be solved.
[Charles Kovess]: That's my promise to you.
[Charles Kovess]: I'll guarantee it.
[Charles Kovess]: I'll give you a written guarantee.
[J.Jay Couey]: I appreciate that comment, because I do get caught oftentimes, but if it matters at all to say it in retrospect, the reason why I try to point it out is because one of the ways that you can explore
[J.Jay Couey]: Um, the track record of these people is to see whether they've really sacrificed anything or not.
[J.Jay Couey]: Now I've got, I've got donors and I've got people that take care of my family.
[J.Jay Couey]: And so, so it is only because I don't like being supported by two or three or five people.
[J.Jay Couey]: Um, and, and running on fumes like that, that I mentioned it, whereas there are other people who have very comfortably from the very beginning,
[J.Jay Couey]: been able to take advantage of the new social media and the new whatever things that have come up.
[J.Jay Couey]: And I think that's a really important thing to see because those new social medias also have owners.
[J.Jay Couey]: They have people that have set them up and run them.
[J.Jay Couey]: And we were segregating ourselves into Gab and into Telegram groups, into Signal groups.
[J.Jay Couey]: And those segregated groups still exist and still influence people.
[J.Jay Couey]: Um, and so I do really think we need to, we need to work very hard to reorient ourselves to finding individuals, um, that we can trust to have something to say.
[J.Jay Couey]: And so I don't think we're going to podcast our way out of this.
[J.Jay Couey]: If all we're ever going to do is interview each other.
[J.Jay Couey]: Um,
[J.Jay Couey]: And that's why I don't interview people.
[J.Jay Couey]: I have enough to say on my own.
[J.Jay Couey]: I don't need to interview anybody.
[Charles Kovess]: Let me say that the Charles Kerves show is up to episode 219.
[Charles Kovess]: Oh, nice.
[J.Jay Couey]: Well, I want to be on that show.
[Charles Kovess]: No, I don't do interviews.
[J.Jay Couey]: Oh, perfect.
[Charles Kovess]: I love it.
[Charles Kovess]: I was on TNT Radio.
[Charles Kovess]: That's going to come back as The Pulse.
[Charles Kovess]: Literally 219 shows like you, I have been straight monologue.
[Charles Kovess]: So, and there are, that's why we've asked, where's the good sources of information and where are the good groups of people doing stuff, Jay?
[Charles Kovess]: You make a good point and stuff is happening.
[Charles Kovess]: from this group, as I say, in often introductions, and Jerome will publish your book, Jay, so we will tee that up.
[Charles Kovess]: All right, let's get to other questions.
[Charles Kovess]: We've got another hour to go, Jay.
[Charles Kovess]: It was magnificent to hear your truth.
[Charles Kovess]: We'll go Sandra, because your hand was up first, then we'll go to Lex and Anders and John.
[Charles Kovess]: Sandra.
[SPEAKER_02]: Charles, very quickly, can I just say there's a great comment from John Lukacs in the
[SPEAKER_02]: chat.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, John, I'm not always against you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pandemic is not a word, it's a lie.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think of that, JJ?
[J.Jay Couey]: Yeah, I think that's a great way to address a lot of these things.
[J.Jay Couey]: Again, it's a hard exercise, but
[J.Jay Couey]: we have to constantly check ourselves that we're, when we use their terms with their definitions, we're kind of already trapped.
[J.Jay Couey]: And, and so, um, vaccine is one of those traps.
[J.Jay Couey]: I think autism is one of those traps.
[J.Jay Couey]: I think, um, you know, genes and, and what we, what we think of genes being able to do is one of those traps where we're, we're, we're putting our kids in that trap too.
[J.Jay Couey]: Um,
[SPEAKER_02]: So, JJ, I think you answered that very quickly then, and you kind of took it as read, but I don't think most of the population see it that way.
[SPEAKER_02]: So what's your best way of convincing people?
[SPEAKER_02]: that there was no pandemic, that there cannot be a pandemic, in fact, in my view.
[SPEAKER_02]: I also shared John's view that pandemics are not possible.
[J.Jay Couey]: I think that pandemics not being possible is a kind of, you can dunk the basketball kind of thing.
[J.Jay Couey]: You can't dunk the basketball now, but if you do enough
[J.Jay Couey]: Working out and exercise, you can dunk a basketball.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's basically the answer for RNA cannot pandemic.
[J.Jay Couey]: If you're not a biologist, you got a lot of work to do.
[J.Jay Couey]: I can't take you through a three-hour course in biology unless you just believe everything I say.
[J.Jay Couey]: And then if you believe everything I say, I can explain to you why DNA is supposedly very special and RNA can't be.
[J.Jay Couey]: And then when you realize that, you realize that pandemic has attributed almost everything that DNA can do to RNA as long as it's in a virus.
[J.Jay Couey]: If RNA is in you, it's really temporary and barely does anything and it's highly regulated and there's all kinds of little ones too.
[J.Jay Couey]: But if we put it in a virus, it does, it's very robust and it lasts for decades and it's great in the freezer and we can resurrect it from dead bodies in Alaska and that's just all bullshit.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's bullshit that a select group of people agrees to lie about.
[J.Jay Couey]: And if you get Meryl Nass and Kevin McKernan in to argue with me, they'll agree to lie about it.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's their job.
[J.Jay Couey]: If you get two other virologists here, they might not be sophisticated enough to know they're full of shit, but they're definitely full of shit because everything they do on their bench is synthetic.
[J.Jay Couey]: They order the RNA, they order the cell culture that they're culturing, and then they apply the two together, and then they take off the supernatant, and they find a molecule in it, and they say they're doing virology, and they're just not sophisticated enough to understand that that's not recapitulating anything in nature.
[J.Jay Couey]: And the only reason why they think it is is because these virologists have told them that the same sequence is found in bats that we sent you in that tube.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's the extent to this.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's all the lying that Robert Malone and Judy Mikovits have to cover up.
[J.Jay Couey]: Judy Mikovits can say, don't inject yourself until she comes home.
[J.Jay Couey]: The cows come home as long as she keeps telling everybody that RNA can pandemic and they can make special RNA and it can even pandemic harder.
[J.Jay Couey]: And that's the trick.
[J.Jay Couey]: You need to see that all of these people are not scoring a touchdown.
[J.Jay Couey]: They're saying one thing, but not all of it.
[J.Jay Couey]: And if all of these people understand, then all of these people should have been here by now.
[J.Jay Couey]: Mary Holland shouldn't have needed me.
[J.Jay Couey]: to get here, and she's still not here.
[J.Jay Couey]: Meryl Nass shouldn't have needed my help if she was already speaking in front of Congress by telephone about the anthrax vaccines in 2011, then she shouldn't have needed my help in 2023 to get to the stage where she could say RNA cannot pandemic or the intramuscular injection of a combination of substances in general is pretty stupid, but she hasn't gotten there yet.
[J.Jay Couey]: And that's only because it is by design.
[J.Jay Couey]: I am not a super genius.
[J.Jay Couey]: I'm just a biologist that's not lying and hasn't been bought off yet.
[J.Jay Couey]: That doesn't have a career to lose anymore because it was already taken away.
[J.Jay Couey]: And I assure you that I'd have my mouth shut if they'd have made other choices and gave me more students and more money and said, keep working on your very important problem in the brain.
[J.Jay Couey]: I would still be working on it because that's where I was.
[J.Jay Couey]: It is only by their mistake.
[J.Jay Couey]: and by their ineptness that we are here right now, where I can tell you with confidence that all these people lied to me, because they all did.
[J.Jay Couey]: And I have the DMs, and the signal chats, and the emails, and the recorded phone calls, and the recorded Zoom meetings, and the public podcasts to show you.
[J.Jay Couey]: And if you do the language and do the research and you look for it, you can see it.
[J.Jay Couey]: There's just a coordinated group of liars and, and, and they had a problem to solve.
[J.Jay Couey]: This is the thing that I think would, would work, especially for Americans, because you can find video of Ted Turner talking about it in the eighties, about how, when all of us baby boomers get to be old, America's going to have a pretty big problem.
[J.Jay Couey]: And that's because we don't have a population pyramid shaped like a pyramid anymore.
[J.Jay Couey]: And for the last 20 years, they saw this increase in all-cause mortality coming, and that's why they put people like Dodd and Rancor in place to talk about all-cause mortality without ever mentioning the population pyramid of the West.
[J.Jay Couey]: That everywhere from Scotland to America to the Netherlands, it was all top-heavy.
[J.Jay Couey]: because a lot of people had kids after World War II.
[J.Jay Couey]: It's really simple fricking map.
[J.Jay Couey]: They had a problem to manage and they'd managed it.
[J.Jay Couey]: And they managed it with lies that got them trillions of dollars to move in the directions that they could control and respond to.
[J.Jay Couey]: And Malone and all of these people are in on the testing and in on all of the other profit making on the virus.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's why none of them have ever usefully questioned it.
[J.Jay Couey]: And that's why the only people that have usefully questioned it haven't usefully questioned it and said, said everything from, you know, everything and everything's a lie and it's just detoxification or this other bullshit.
[J.Jay Couey]: When they too could have said, Tom Cowan and Alex Zek and Kauffman, they could have all said that they're murdering people in America and lying about it.
[J.Jay Couey]: They're murdering people with ventilators and remdesivir and supplementary oxygen and midazolam and withholding antibiotics, but they didn't.
[J.Jay Couey]: They spent a year or two years talking about isolation and purification and only would talk to people on podcasts if the discussion was about those three words.
[J.Jay Couey]: Not about murder, not about lies, and not about why they would ever have to murder anybody.
[J.Jay Couey]: Isn't it funny how somebody as smart as Andy Kaufman hasn't ever mentioned the population pyramid, or Tom Cowan with his mountain of common sense has never mentioned the population pyramid as a problem needing managing?
[J.Jay Couey]: They all haven't mentioned it, ladies and gentlemen, because it is
[J.Jay Couey]: The problem needing managing that's why they needed to have a story about a virus because all cause mortality was going to go on up and they were just going to look at you and say, well, we got more old people.
[J.Jay Couey]: What did you expect?
[J.Jay Couey]: Of course, they were going to tell you a story about a disease that they could enslave your children with.
[J.Jay Couey]: I mean, think about it.
[J.Jay Couey]: I don't know.
[J.Jay Couey]: I don't even know what the question was anymore.
[Charles Kovess]: Anyway, we've got to keep moving.
[Charles Kovess]: Thank you, Stephen.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pandemic is not a word, it's a lie.
[Charles Kovess]: Let's go.
[Charles Kovess]: Thank you, Jay.
[Charles Kovess]: Well said.
[Charles Kovess]: Sandra.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hi.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hi, JJ.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hi.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you, I've really been following your stuff and Mark Kulek's stuff, and it's, you too, the research you guys do is incredible, that's all I can say.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm kind of more like a Dr. McCoy, you know, kind of a simple country doc, so a lot of the stuff that I've been following you on, I'm not getting.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not, you know, it doesn't, anyways, it's not easy for me, let's put it that way.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I have a question I want to pose to you.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I first wanted to share something briefly about Mary Harlan.
[SPEAKER_04]: A couple years ago, I wanted to address the California Board of Pharmacy about the contaminants in the bioweapon.
[SPEAKER_04]: But my concern was I didn't want to take away from the fact that they're horrible and go down a rabbit hole, right, with the Board of Pharmacy and everything.
[SPEAKER_04]: And just so you know, she told me to go ahead and go on that line and forget the other stuff, just deal with the contaminants.
[SPEAKER_04]: So just kind of an aside, FYI.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, so my question is this, if the quote COVID sickness was disseminated from a toxin in select areas, New York City, places in Italy, et cetera,
[SPEAKER_04]: How did so many people experience the clots and microscope clots in other areas?
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just, I mean, I had patients that had clots out of the blue with their flu.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's not normal.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I don't, I don't understand.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm trying to figure how that worked.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, uh, first of all, this is pre pre-injection pre-injection.
[J.Jay Couey]: Um, this, this goes hand in hand with, um,
[J.Jay Couey]: it goes hand in hand with the rest of the sort of problem that I have, which is that this is a crime.
[J.Jay Couey]: And so if I have to have a better answer, and I'm not saying this in defense or being defensive to you, I'm just trying to propose why your question is so difficult for anyone and why it's actually a question that Robert Malone would ask or that Meryl Nass would ask.
[J.Jay Couey]: Um, is that every year, every year in America, 3 million people die every year, every week, rather in America, somewhere between 10 and 15,000 people die of pneumonia.
[J.Jay Couey]: So
[J.Jay Couey]: When people are dying of pneumonia, they can have clots in their lungs.
[J.Jay Couey]: They can have secondary strokes.
[J.Jay Couey]: And so one of the things that I can't stress enough that you always need to do is reverse engineer how you got to understand that.
[J.Jay Couey]: And the only thing I know is, is that before 2019, I didn't give a shit about people dying in the hospital and didn't care at all about anybody dying of flu.
[J.Jay Couey]: And I know for sure that doctors were not looking for clots in people that were dying of flu.
[J.Jay Couey]: Why?
[J.Jay Couey]: They weren't told to.
[J.Jay Couey]: Flues, they knew how to treat with antibiotics and with whatever other things they used to treat them with, giving them fluids, whatever the deal is, nobody looked for it.
[J.Jay Couey]: Now, if there were a certain subset of respiratory diseases with secondary pneumonia that also had microclotting, they knew that already.
[J.Jay Couey]: What a wonderful way to pretend that there's something new.
[J.Jay Couey]: And now, I'm not a doctor.
[J.Jay Couey]: I'm just, I'm trying to,
[J.Jay Couey]: always reorient you and everyone into first trying to reverse engineer how it is you got to that question.
[J.Jay Couey]: And the question presupposes that before the pandemic, nobody with pneumonia ever had any microclotting, but who's testing for it?
[J.Jay Couey]: Who was looking for, who even knew about that before that?
[J.Jay Couey]: Because I know that people who had the flu had heart attacks, and people who had the flu had strokes, and people that had the flu got pneumonia and went into the hospital, and other things happened, and nobody ever said that the flu caused it.
[J.Jay Couey]: Nobody ever said that, well, if he would have had a flu vaccine, he would have never had a stroke.
[J.Jay Couey]: But they told that story about COVID, and everybody bought it, because everybody from Tony Fauci all the way to Kevin McKernan in 2020 were already agreeing.
[J.Jay Couey]: Kevin McKernan of the Human Genome Project was already doing podcast circuits in 2020 telling people that he did PCR, he does PCR, PCR works, the FDA sucks, and COVID was probably around longer than they say it was.
[J.Jay Couey]: Which is not saving anybody.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's kind of like the same background of PCR.
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe this was a background.
[SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely.
[J.Jay Couey]: It's a background of respiratory disease that gets made a lot worse if you stop giving them antibiotics and their pneumonia progresses to a stage it never would have if you'd have just treated it.
[SPEAKER_04]: How many people got there like that?
[SPEAKER_04]: Because next month, I'm going to do our local chapter CHD presentation.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm going to try and bring people around to some of this thinking, because they're still on the old narratives.
[J.Jay Couey]: It is really a question of how specific were we about the details of respiratory disease before 2020, and how ridiculously specific we became afterward.
[J.Jay Couey]: That illusion is spectacularly controlled by these people.
[J.Jay Couey]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_04]: And what do you, what about shedding?
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I do, I mean, I, again, again, I never noticed, but I did have female patients whose cycles changed just from being around people at work.
[SPEAKER_04]: And actually one of my cats had hematuria for a month with no diagnosable cause after my husband got his injections.
[J.Jay Couey]: But that's different, right?
[J.Jay Couey]: So if you think of this technology as being old and Robert Malone being the inventor of it, the technology is transfection.
[J.Jay Couey]: And there's absolutely no reason not to think that if you got transfected to a protein that you wouldn't shed it.
[J.Jay Couey]: Of course you would.
[J.Jay Couey]: And if that protein had some biological properties, now remember, one of the things, I just wanna make sure everybody, I don't know if this is gonna work, but one of the things that I really want everybody to think about, I'm gonna make myself smaller, is the idea of a vaccine in general, right?
[J.Jay Couey]: A vaccine in general right now in America and by American laws, a vaccine that produces a measurable response.
[J.Jay Couey]: And right now their measurable response, of course, is antibodies.
[J.Jay Couey]: So what I want you to think about is that before the pandemic, any potential countermeasure that they would have been working up in the background would need to fit this example.
[J.Jay Couey]: And so, of course, if they're going to try and recycle
[J.Jay Couey]: an old technology and try to test it in humans over the next 10 years and optimize it for humans.
[J.Jay Couey]: They can't optimize it for humans in mice.
[J.Jay Couey]: They can't optimize it for humans in any special monkey.
[J.Jay Couey]: They can only optimize any medicine or drug in humans.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's the main thing we've learned in the last 20 years of mouse and monkey research.
[J.Jay Couey]: You can learn a lot about mice and a lot about monkeys, but not a lot about people.
[J.Jay Couey]: And certainly not a lot about the developing
[J.Jay Couey]: like fetus or the developing teenager.
[J.Jay Couey]: And so a vaccine has to meet this very standard definition in American law and in American, you know, it's American law is that it has to produce antibodies in American grant proposals.
[J.Jay Couey]: This is the proxy for the effect of a vaccine.
[J.Jay Couey]: And that's at best all they ever characterize.
[J.Jay Couey]: Now, the important thing to understand is that if they were going to take transfection
[J.Jay Couey]: and make it work for a pandemic, then they don't need to release anything except for the special protein that they want to transfect you to.
[J.Jay Couey]: Now my argument as a biologist would be, I'm sorry this is going to be a long answer, my argument as a biologist would be that if they transfected you to a harmless protein,
[J.Jay Couey]: Now I can't come up with one off the top of my head, but just imagine a harmless protein like collagen from another animal.
[J.Jay Couey]: So that you don't have any collagen in your body that matches this one, but it's also just so related to yours that it's not gonna be immunogenic.
[J.Jay Couey]: I know for sure, because Robert Malone worked on this stuff along with other people in the NIH, I know for sure that they've been looking for small,
[J.Jay Couey]: amino acid sequences that the immune system can't ignore.
[J.Jay Couey]: And the code word for this is epitope.
[J.Jay Couey]: The epitope is actually the small amino acid sequence
[J.Jay Couey]: that is associated with damage, and therefore the immune system tries to make a memory to as far as we understand.
[J.Jay Couey]: Now I could be wrong and the immune system and our understanding of it could be grossly exaggerated, but as far as I've been able to tell, the immune system does make memories, but it makes memories to very small amino acid sequences.
[J.Jay Couey]: And in understanding the immune system that way, we've come to determine that some bacterial toxins are especially toxic because
[J.Jay Couey]: They have a small amino acid sequence that the immune system really can't ignore and sometimes goes haywire from.
[J.Jay Couey]: So one of those is tetanus toxin.
[J.Jay Couey]: The immune system just simply can't ignore it and it freaks out if tetanus toxin is present.
[J.Jay Couey]: And so if you don't already kind of sensitize your immune system to it, the argument is that it can go bananas because it's such a strong immunogen.
[J.Jay Couey]: So if you have a very overwhelming infection of tetanus bacteria, you will also have an overwhelming amount of this toxin and it can be toxic.
[J.Jay Couey]: Now, keeping this in mind, if anything that they released as a transfection had to meet the standards of a vaccine by producing a noticeable and unignorable, repeatable immune reaction,
[J.Jay Couey]: The very simple thing to do is to take 10 years between SARS-CoV-2 and now and find a few of those sequences and put them into a protein that you would then happen to find at the release site.
[J.Jay Couey]: And so if they wanted, for example, to design a protein with all the special patented sequences of Moderna that got the immune system not to be able to ignore it so that it would be the perfect example of a transfection that worked as a vaccine, they would just take that amino acid sequence and make a lot of it and then dump it somewhere.
[J.Jay Couey]: in the DNA form, because then it would be stable, and it could be tested for and sequenced and found.
[J.Jay Couey]: And you could do that at any pharmaceutical company that has the standard recombinant DNA technology, any of them.
[J.Jay Couey]: They all were using it already for 20 years.
[J.Jay Couey]: And so my point is, again, that this transfection that they rolled out when it was not placebo, because you have to keep in mind that most of it was placebo.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's how they rolled out billions of shots, and that's why most people never got hurt.
[J.Jay Couey]: The easiest way to poison people is to make most of the shots placebo.
[J.Jay Couey]: And then also you can just monitor the ones you know that are hot.
[J.Jay Couey]: And that's why Sasha Latupova and these people were talking about hot and cold vaccines.
[J.Jay Couey]: They didn't want to tell you that placebos would be the cheapest, easiest and most reliable way to do it.
[J.Jay Couey]: Instead, they made you run around for three years and think that maybe it was refrigeration or something like that.
[J.Jay Couey]: And so what you have here is, is most likely when the transfection was used, it was done with a protein that they knew would get a reliable antibody response every time that somebody got it.
[J.Jay Couey]: Because of course, that's what's required to make the minimum standard of being an effective vaccine.
[J.Jay Couey]: And so it doesn't matter if they protect you from PCR positivity.
[J.Jay Couey]: It doesn't matter if they keep you out of the hospital because the only bar they were required to meet was antibody production.
[J.Jay Couey]: And so they released a sequence that they were reasonably sure would produce a robust antibody response so that they could just shrug their shoulders and say, hey, you know, we only took 45 minutes to make the spike protein into a vaccine and lo and behold, Nobel prize winning results.
[J.Jay Couey]: And it's very easy to do, again, because the only sequence they had to find was the one the Chinese reported.
[J.Jay Couey]: They aren't sequencing every virus they ever find.
[J.Jay Couey]: They can't, they never could.
[J.Jay Couey]: So the whole idea that Kevin McKernan has been going around the United States and the world telling everybody that we're at 15 million or 20 million sequences of a virus that previously
[J.Jay Couey]: When we tried to track a coronavirus, do you know that the best results we ever got were 27 successive patients tracked?
[J.Jay Couey]: It happened in the Netherlands, the papers by Mark Van Ronst.
[J.Jay Couey]: They found a new coronavirus in the Netherlands and named it NL67 or NL47, I don't know which one.
[J.Jay Couey]: And when they found it, they tracked it through like 26 kids and they lost it.
[J.Jay Couey]: But it's endemic.
[J.Jay Couey]: It's in the background.
[J.Jay Couey]: It's everywhere.
[J.Jay Couey]: But when they tried to track it, when they first found it, they were able to follow it through 26 people.
[J.Jay Couey]: But Kevin McKernan tells us that we're still tracking this one and sequencing its full genome and following it like an evolution of a clock that gets better and better at infecting people.
[J.Jay Couey]: This illusion must be broken.
[J.Jay Couey]: It really has to be broken.
[J.Jay Couey]: It has to be.
[J.Jay Couey]: Sorry, I should have cut differently there.
[J.Jay Couey]: I should have done this.
[J.Jay Couey]: And it can be broken when you realize that transfection, sorry, transfection, they already knew how it worked.
[J.Jay Couey]: We already know how it works in mice.
[J.Jay Couey]: We already know how it works in monkeys.
[J.Jay Couey]: And of course the possibility of shedding it is real.
[J.Jay Couey]: I mean, if you eat garlic and you eat enough of it, I can smell it in your sweat.
[J.Jay Couey]: Of course the shedding is real.
[J.Jay Couey]: Some people are great to kiss and other people taste like an ashtray and they haven't smoked.
[J.Jay Couey]: And that's because there's biological communication happening.
[J.Jay Couey]: There are pheromones and hormones and all of these things are real.
[J.Jay Couey]: It's not a background of nothing.
[SPEAKER_04]: All right, and one last question, thank you.
[SPEAKER_04]: So exosomes are viruses, I think.
[J.Jay Couey]: I would say the other way around.
[SPEAKER_04]: Viruses are exosomes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Some exosomes are viruses, and viruses are exosomes.
[J.Jay Couey]: I would say it the other way around again, because exosomes is a bigger category of transmission.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, has there ever actually been any proof?
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, real proof that a virus does any virus slash exit virus exosome will do that has done anything to hurt people rather than being a biological response to something else.
[J.Jay Couey]: I'm pretty sure that herpes virus is a pretty good example of something that kind of works the way they say it works.
[J.Jay Couey]: Okay.
[Charles Kovess]: Let's keep moving.
[Charles Kovess]: Thank you.
[Charles Kovess]: Thank you, Sandra.
[Charles Kovess]: Great questions.
[Charles Kovess]: And we're just going to be tight.
[Charles Kovess]: We're just tight for time.
[Charles Kovess]: So we just keep moving.
[Charles Kovess]: Lex, lovely to see you from Canada.
[Charles Kovess]: Give us a quick update on are we going to get rid of Justin Castro yet?
[SPEAKER_12]: What can I say about that?
[SPEAKER_12]: person.
[SPEAKER_12]: It's like, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_12]: It's like, I want to get to get to the question.
[SPEAKER_12]: JJ, I am a fan.
[SPEAKER_12]: I like your your ideas.
[SPEAKER_12]: And what I want to get more clarity on is you, you name like lots of dissidents.
[SPEAKER_12]: And you you concluded that they're willfully
[SPEAKER_12]: misleading the public.
[SPEAKER_12]: So that's OK.
[J.Jay Couey]: So.
[J.Jay Couey]: Especially the Americans, the ones that I mentioned that are American, especially them.
[SPEAKER_12]: OK, so can you elaborate on how you come to conclude that in their mind, like, you know, they're like intent on deception.
[SPEAKER_12]: as opposed to simply having like a different baggage of knowledge and experience.
[SPEAKER_12]: And those who people who agree with certain ideas, they tend to aggregate and people who have different ideas, they aggregate, you know, they don't, like, aggregate together, you know, so I want to better understand like, okay, well, how do you get to their mind state?
[SPEAKER_12]: It's like, yeah, this person,
[SPEAKER_12]: cannot be like, what I'm saying is like, it's impossible for this person to believe what he says.
[SPEAKER_12]: Like he has to be deceitful.
[J.Jay Couey]: Because I think the short way to say it is, is because we've had six years.
[J.Jay Couey]: And because these people have been talking to me for six years and ignoring me for the last two,
[J.Jay Couey]: because I've had private conversations face-to-face with Meryl Nass, where she's yelled at me and screamed at me, where Mary Holland has told me that she's never trusted me and she only hired me because Bobby made her hire me.
[J.Jay Couey]: I've been on a podcast with Robert Malone and Meryl Nass and Jessica Rose and Tess Laurie and Robert F. Kennedy Jr., and then nine days later,
[J.Jay Couey]: met Robert Malone in person, and he denied knowing who I was, denied being on the podcast, and denied the fact that according to Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
[J.Jay Couey]: himself, it is Robert Malone who told Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
[J.Jay Couey]: to hire me.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's the actual thing that Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
[J.Jay Couey]: and Senator Ron Johnson told me on the same day in April of 2022, that Robert Malone had called them, told them to watch my stream, and that they needed to hire me, and so that they both asked me to be their consultant on that day in April.
[J.Jay Couey]: And in that day in April was when I realized that these people were trying to get me to commit
[J.Jay Couey]: full-on commit to the idea that a lab leak had happened, had been covered up, and was still ongoing, was spreading around.
[J.Jay Couey]: And as I struggled for a year and a half, while getting paid very well, to explain to Bobby Kennedy that that biology did not make sense, he asked me to teach him what infectious clones were,
[J.Jay Couey]: And it was at that point that I sent him an email saying, I think we've been lied to, and even I didn't know how bad.
[J.Jay Couey]: And I sent him an email explaining explicitly what I thought happened, and that is when that podcast occurred, that is when they started ignoring me, that is when I was essentially...
[J.Jay Couey]: a big problem for them.
[J.Jay Couey]: And so for the next nine months, these people gave me a job at CHD where they had me working behind the scenes on doctor's records and all kinds of other shit and not wanting to talk about the book, not wanting me to add any more to the book, not wanting me to do any interviews, not wanting to have me on a podcast or be a spokesperson of any kind.
[J.Jay Couey]: And I wanted to teach immunology.
[J.Jay Couey]: I wanted to be the immunology teacher for CHD.
[J.Jay Couey]: I wanted to teach why intramuscular injection to augment a kid's immune system was dumb, and they refused.
[J.Jay Couey]: They said no, no, no.
[J.Jay Couey]: And the reason why is because they hired me to shut me up.
[J.Jay Couey]: They said that you have to get on board with making a big top 10 of health freedom.
[J.Jay Couey]: We're not against the vaccine schedule.
[J.Jay Couey]: We just want people to be against it for themselves.
[J.Jay Couey]: That means that they weren't trying to save kids from injury.
[J.Jay Couey]: They weren't trying to save kids from murder.
[J.Jay Couey]: They weren't trying to save old people from transfection.
[J.Jay Couey]: They're trying to get donations and make sure that those don't do anything.
[SPEAKER_12]: So would it be correct that they're being deceitful by what they didn't do and what they didn't say?
[J.Jay Couey]: when they could for more than 10 years.
[J.Jay Couey]: Yes.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's why CHD doesn't push the original Vaxxed movie at all.
[J.Jay Couey]: Wouldn't you think at the beginning of the pandemic, CHD would have started out by saying, hey, by the way, we were saying this was bullshit already for 10 years and we got a movie to show you why you better beware of the vaccine that they're going to roll out in a year.
[J.Jay Couey]: But they didn't do it and they still haven't done it.
[J.Jay Couey]: They made another movie and they're selling more books.
[J.Jay Couey]: Do you understand that CHD
[J.Jay Couey]: As a book, where in the frick is it?
[J.Jay Couey]: They have a book.
[J.Jay Couey]: The book is written by Brian Hooker.
[J.Jay Couey]: It has only science in it, which shows that the vaccine schedule in America is criminal.
[J.Jay Couey]: But they're not selling that book.
[J.Jay Couey]: They're selling Robert Malone's books, and they're selling the NCI book that talks all about the pandemic and the virus.
[J.Jay Couey]: They are not trying to save us.
[J.Jay Couey]: They are trying to make money and to sabotage the progress that could be made with simple language and simple goals.
[J.Jay Couey]: There should be somewhere on Earth
[J.Jay Couey]: a non-profit that is pushing the idea that intramuscular injection is dumb.
[J.Jay Couey]: There should be a non-profit that is pushing the idea that pursuing billions of dollars of research into the genetic causes of shit is the worst way of wasting money that has ever been conceived.
[J.Jay Couey]: It's just as bad as trying to find the genetic
[J.Jay Couey]: you know, the specific ways of curing cancer when 90% of it is just toxicity and poison, not having clean food and clean water and clean environment.
[J.Jay Couey]: It's ridiculous.
[J.Jay Couey]: We have been bamboozled for decades, though.
[J.Jay Couey]: That's the problem.
[J.Jay Couey]: We inherited these charlatans from our parents.
[SPEAKER_12]: One last comment is the first time I saw you on the Stephen Frost call, you were arguing with Gerd van den Bosch.
[SPEAKER_12]: And I'm not a scientist.
[SPEAKER_12]: And what you guys were arguing about, like, I couldn't stand like, you know, either side.
[SPEAKER_12]: But I had decided that, you know, you'd want the debate, because Gerd was trying to box the debate into like, very narrow categories.
[SPEAKER_12]: And I did not understand what they were.
[SPEAKER_12]: But it was just the is a matter of speech that made him less credible.
[Charles Kovess]: All right, Lex, we'll take that as a comment and as a compliment and we'll move on.
[Charles Kovess]: Now, before we get to Anders, Jay, just while it's fresh in my mind, there are people wanting information from you and there is a platform, I will bring it to your attention, Jay, where on your website you say you are
[Charles Kovess]: born to be a teacher, you are clearly a wonderful sharer of material, and there are ways and platforms available so that you can do your teaching in a far bigger audience and be properly remunerated for doing your teaching.
[Charles Kovess]: So I'll talk to you about that, but I want to plant that seed in your mind because
[Charles Kovess]: You have the ability from the content you've developed to get people to sign up to pay you $10, $20 a month to then be educated or have the opportunity to educate themselves from your material.
[Charles Kovess]: And all of you on this call are able to do that, and I have advised people on this call
[Charles Kovess]: regular participants, that's how you get subscribers.
[Charles Kovess]: There are people desperate to learn, Jay, and they're happy to invest in their own education.
[Charles Kovess]: And I'm trying to remember who made the comment, the best investment.
[Charles Kovess]: I think it was Jim Rohn.
[Charles Kovess]: The best investment you can possibly make is in your own education.
[Charles Kovess]: So there you are.
[Charles Kovess]: And you've told us to learn biology.
[Charles Kovess]: So everyone take that on board.
[Charles Kovess]: Anders.
[SPEAKER_01]: JJ, it was great to hear your testimony.
[SPEAKER_01]: You have been a lot more productive than me.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have two sons.
[SPEAKER_01]: You seem to have five, so that's good for you.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm lucky enough to have them with me for Christmas.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I will say it like this.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I have been investing about 5,000 hours of time or research the last five years.
[SPEAKER_01]: I will not say, OK, some of it was wasted.
[SPEAKER_01]: Some of it was not.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you have identified Bob Malone, Wellness Company, the Doctors of Fraud, Gert van der Bosch, yeah, these friends, you know, I feel disgusting to see what they have done, but I must say I have a great respect of Catherine Watt, Sasha Latipova, and other people around them, like
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to go there.
[SPEAKER_01]: I must also say that I'm a close friend now after about a year with Vera Sharov, and I have been in close contact with Mary Holland, and I don't recognize what you tell about her.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been working for Dr. Robert Young for about two years.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen Karen Kingston have different opinions.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would say
[SPEAKER_01]: my research would suggest that in the week of the time the date the week they launched the COVID pandemic it was the same week all over Europe and USA that 5G was launched it's a correlation we don't need to go further but it is the same week and the people who had diseases
[SPEAKER_01]: let's say, symptoms, they had radiation poisoning syndrome, which is consistent with what Beverly Rubik and Robert Young and others found.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it is amazing that this group seems to, to such a great extent, not go into that, I would say.
[SPEAKER_01]: I will challenge this group by a little bit critical, I would say,
[SPEAKER_01]: because all groups have infiltrations.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was a good friend of Rainer Fulmisch.
[SPEAKER_01]: We had a long time conversation.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was about to speak in Mexico.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I would ask Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg, did you corner my friend Rainer Fulmisch along with Vivian Fisher?
[Charles Kovess]: OK, Anders, we'll take that as a comment.
[Charles Kovess]: And Wolfgang will speak when he speaks.
[Charles Kovess]: Thank you, Anders.
[Charles Kovess]: The radiation, you've said it many times, and it's a very, you know, no problems with it.
[Charles Kovess]: You have promoted it, and every group is infiltrated.
[Charles Kovess]: I don't worry about infiltration.
[Charles Kovess]: We're speaking.
[Charles Kovess]: You speak what's true for you.
[Charles Kovess]: Everyone speaks what's true for you.
[Charles Kovess]: We're gonna go on.
[Charles Kovess]: John, look out.
[Charles Kovess]: You're all muted, John.
[J.Jay Couey]: Oh, there's Wolfgang.
[SPEAKER_10]: Well, JJ, I would love to get with you for an hour, like sometime when you got like something, nothing to do.
[SPEAKER_10]: I've got some big concepts to share with you.
[SPEAKER_10]: I think you would probably appreciate.
[SPEAKER_10]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_10]: You sent me an email a while back about appearing on your live stream.
[SPEAKER_10]: We could do that or not.
[SPEAKER_10]: I know you don't need to interview anybody.
[SPEAKER_10]: But just because I don't think I can get it all out, but there's a couple of things I want to ask for.
[SPEAKER_10]: This is to the whole group.
[SPEAKER_10]: Remember when you were talking with Sukhrap Bhakti and he was saying that he had a piece of proof, like a paper.
[SPEAKER_10]: Um, he, um, made reference to it in that, uh, last meetup and it had to do with the COVID vaccine being, uh, made in an hour and a couple of years before it was needed.
[SPEAKER_10]: Do you have that?
[SPEAKER_10]: Cause I can't seem to find that.
[SPEAKER_10]: I don't have that paper, but, um, anybody does.
[SPEAKER_10]: He's promoting it.
[SPEAKER_10]: It should be someplace and I can put it up.
[J.Jay Couey]: All it really means, though, I mean, depending on what he's actually talking about.
[J.Jay Couey]: He's passionate about it.
[SPEAKER_10]: I remember what it was.
[SPEAKER_10]: I wrote about it, but God knows where in my blog.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's so many pages long.
[SPEAKER_10]: OK, so let's see here.
[SPEAKER_10]: There was John, you need to create an index.
[SPEAKER_10]: I have it.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm trying to read it.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's multicolored.
[SPEAKER_10]: I've been scribbling like mad.
[SPEAKER_10]: Drew Weissman, Nobel Prize winner this year.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: Can you build a case to knock him out of the box?
[SPEAKER_10]: There's 50 grand.
[SPEAKER_10]: They might have to give that to you.
[J.Jay Couey]: You mean like what, that he's just a dupe?
[J.Jay Couey]: I mean, he's definitely.
[J.Jay Couey]: Yeah, yeah.
[J.Jay Couey]: There's another great example of a dupe that's even better one this year.
[J.Jay Couey]: They gave a chemistry award this year to these programmers and a couple biologists that supposedly do protein biology.
[J.Jay Couey]: But there's one guy with the mustache and the glasses from America whose whole entire career is not protein folding.
[J.Jay Couey]: it's actually small interfering RNA and small RNA regulating pathways in C. elegans.
[J.Jay Couey]: So what's really funny about that is that one of the main reasons why transfection could never work in healthy humans is because we can't make
[J.Jay Couey]: RNA so pure in the ways that they did it so that you could never put it in and guarantee that there wouldn't be small fragmented RNAs that could have all kinds of unknown effects.
[J.Jay Couey]: And one of his main discoveries is that we have just scratched the surface of how small RNAs are used to regulate larger RNAs in terms of transcription length and time and
[J.Jay Couey]: existence in the cell.
[J.Jay Couey]: And this happens on a cell-by-cell, tissue-by-tissue specific basis, gene-by-gene basis, and he has a hard time explaining how complicated it is in an animal where we know how many cells it has in the entire lineage of those cells C. elegans.
[J.Jay Couey]: And so imagine trying to explain what small interfering, small regulatory RNAs, micro RNAs do in a pattern integrity as big and as long-lived as a human.
[J.Jay Couey]: And so the idea that we just started transfecting people with a methodology that doesn't even have a localized signal, it doesn't have any mechanism.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, it's all programming language.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, this is gobbledygook.
[SPEAKER_10]: The body makes things by means of just-in-time inventory.
[SPEAKER_10]: You know, that's a term business people would be familiar with, right?
[SPEAKER_10]: So, you know, you're maintaining balance.
[SPEAKER_10]: Am I being overly simplistic here?
[SPEAKER_10]: You're not really
[SPEAKER_10]: running a machine you're maintaining a balance and it's all out of whack and all kinds of things are going on but you're not having much effect on it except to disrupt it.
[J.Jay Couey]: The reason why we got there was because I wanted to point out that the reason why they gave that guy the Nobel Prize for protein folding is so that we'd shut the hell up about how much he knows that we don't know about RNA.
[J.Jay Couey]: He's literally now famous for nothing that he's done in the last 20 years, but what he contributed to the Google guy's work on folding proteins.
[J.Jay Couey]: It's ridiculous.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah, but he he's flies in the face of Charles Richet 100 years prior.
[SPEAKER_10]: So.
[SPEAKER_10]: One of them is right.
[SPEAKER_10]: Or one of them is wrong.
[SPEAKER_10]: You know, and I don't think it's for shape because we got, you know, all the human history and help to back him up.
[SPEAKER_10]: Things work the way they work.
[SPEAKER_10]: He pointed it out.
[SPEAKER_10]: But if you read what he was awarded his Nobel for, it sounds like safe and effective vaccine parts.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, come on.
[SPEAKER_10]: There's got to be some bullshit in there.
[SPEAKER_10]: I just, I couldn't find it, but I've been challenging doctors to try to find it.
[SPEAKER_10]: Maybe you could do it, but there you go.
[SPEAKER_10]: I mean, if the guy's a fraud, then he needs to be pulled back.
[SPEAKER_10]: Because I think the only reason he's there is to say down the road, Riche is wrong if he ever,
[SPEAKER_10]: gets out of the bag.
[SPEAKER_10]: And the only thing Sasha is doing for me right now, and Catherine, is they're parroting that like crazy.
[SPEAKER_10]: I just got my first citation on their blog, September 6th, with my book on it.
[SPEAKER_10]: So, okay, so this is a really big concept.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm not gonna give a lecture, but I probably should.
[Charles Kovess]: We don't want a lecture, we want a question.
[Charles Kovess]: You can talk to JJ.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're joking then, Charles.
[SPEAKER_02]: You said I probably should.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of what you might say, or I might say indeed.
[SPEAKER_10]: First of all, I'm with you, all right?
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm just as pissed off as you are.
[SPEAKER_10]: I've just been ranting longer than you have, but it's good to hear you.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's good to hear anybody sounding like that, because you've got to be this way.
[SPEAKER_10]: I think that there is something that I'm starting to flesh together out of all this work I've been doing.
[SPEAKER_10]: I've been reading just a whole big stack of books from all the illuminates in history I can find, about 78 of them, you know, Walter Russell,
[SPEAKER_10]: all the really, really smart guys that have been forgotten because they're just too out there.
[SPEAKER_10]: There is a pattern that's forming, and they're all saying the same thing across about 500 years, that there is kind of an evolutionary pattern.
[SPEAKER_10]: And I'm not going to get all into it here, but it has to do with humans.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's very, very long.
[SPEAKER_10]: And I think that there's either four or five stages to it, wherein maybe going into the third,
[SPEAKER_10]: of four or five, uh, just on the cusp of it.
[SPEAKER_10]: And I think the problem is the throwback.
[SPEAKER_10]: What's what we're calling psychopaths are like a type of evolutionary stage, which has just run out its usefulness.
[SPEAKER_10]: So everything that is going on is, uh, it just looks this way to me, it's boiled down to a type of human with a defect or a difference that, you know,
[SPEAKER_10]: Their days are numbered, all right?
[SPEAKER_10]: So we're gonna beat them eventually.
[SPEAKER_10]: I'm just saying, they are all psychos in the classical definition, the way they define it, right?
[SPEAKER_10]: They do the machinations they do, they're manipulative, they lie, they compulsively, all that stuff.
[SPEAKER_10]: And we just have to accept that they're gonna be with us for a little while longer, but not much longer.
[SPEAKER_10]: We can't be smarter than they are or better doing what they do.
[SPEAKER_10]: but we can just not go along.
[SPEAKER_10]: So this little button on the bottom of the Zoom screen here that says your AI companion, nobody click that.
[SPEAKER_10]: Please, nobody click anything that says AI.
[SPEAKER_10]: You're going to be so sick of AI by next summer, you're going to want to kill yourself for ever touching it.
[SPEAKER_10]: That's all I got to say, but I'd love to talk with you.
[SPEAKER_10]: I can send you an email if you want to get together sometime.
[J.Jay Couey]: Please do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: John, can you briefly explain why everybody wants to kill themselves if they engage with AI?
[SPEAKER_10]: No, I can't.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's just not a real thing.
[SPEAKER_10]: Everything AI is a parlor trick.
[SPEAKER_10]: Everything.
[SPEAKER_10]: Everything about it.
[SPEAKER_10]: I agree with you.
[SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_10]: It's a salesman that's going to sell you subscriptions to things you don't really need.
[SPEAKER_02]: Take your humanity away from you and take your ability to research away from you.
[SPEAKER_10]: Just like using a calculator.
[SPEAKER_10]: They already took our ability to research away.
[SPEAKER_10]: I couldn't start now.
[SPEAKER_10]: No way.
[SPEAKER_10]: I've been just basically filling a big garbage can for five minutes.
[Charles Kovess]: All right, on we go.
[Charles Kovess]: We're tied for time.
[Charles Kovess]: John and Jay, talk and AI, everyone, educate yourselves on the value and the problems, the benefits and the drawbacks of AI, because there are certainly benefits.
[Charles Kovess]: There's not all drawbacks.
[Charles Kovess]: Wolfgang is next.
[Charles Kovess]: Welcome, Wolfgang.
[Charles Kovess]: Long time no see.
[Charles Kovess]: Hello.
[SPEAKER_05]: Hello to everyone.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, I'm glad to see you again.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I came because JJ was here tonight, or is here tonight.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I wanted to listen to him because he opened my eyes a lot.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I think he speaks a lot of truth.
[SPEAKER_05]: And he's very courageous doing this.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I hope I can be as courageous as he is, because, you know, when I started with this whole thing, with the whole pandemics, which I experienced with WHO already for more than 20 years, and with this pandemic preparedness action that WHO planned, and all those investors who use WHO to make insider business.
[SPEAKER_05]: And when I found out what's going on there,
[SPEAKER_05]: And when I found out how they just reshaped the word pandemics, they just redefined it as they just liked it.
[SPEAKER_05]: So the word for pandemic, whether there is a pandemic or not, is ridiculous, this question, because there is human beings
[SPEAKER_05]: And there are 10 million passengers each day flying around the world with billions of microbes, with billions of biological entities they have in their body and on their body.
[SPEAKER_05]: And they exchange them every day all over the world, 10 million passengers each day.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is nature, and there is a very intense communication within our body, which is what we call exosome, molecular information going from one cell to the other.
[SPEAKER_05]: And if it goes out from one body to the other, between human beings, we call it viruses.
[SPEAKER_05]: So it's just a matter of definitions, and there are people, there are so-called specialists,
[SPEAKER_05]: specialists.
[SPEAKER_05]: There are those people who build fences around their mind, who are not open to speak with others, or who don't even listen very often.
[SPEAKER_05]: So, I was very much trapped in my medical educations, where I had to have examines in all those specialties.
[SPEAKER_05]: And this was really dangerous, I think, for my patients.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I'm very sad that I gave vaccinations to children.
[SPEAKER_05]: I gave vaccinations to travelers.
[SPEAKER_05]: And it took me some years until I learned.
[SPEAKER_05]: this is a nonsense.
[SPEAKER_05]: I became skeptical.
[SPEAKER_05]: I got problems then.
[SPEAKER_05]: And when I was in politics, I found out this is a very big corruption and a scam.
[SPEAKER_05]: But in the medical business, I was a little suspicious, but I didn't dare to go against this giant machine, which was everywhere.
[SPEAKER_05]: So this, I think,
[SPEAKER_05]: we have to be very cautious, because this giant machine, which is producing money and power, and which is still going more and more perfectly, collecting our data, collecting information, trying to make us
[SPEAKER_05]: dependent on digital data, to have everything digitalized so that we have to use the cards and we cannot use cash anymore.
[SPEAKER_05]: And so everything is, we get, they make us dependent.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then they, I found, I had a time when I thought, I have to mock them because it's, their tricks are so stupid, transparently stupid.
[SPEAKER_05]: when they just, it's the fourth time now I heard about birth flu.
[SPEAKER_05]: The fourth time.
[SPEAKER_05]: They tried it again and again, and it never really happened.
[SPEAKER_05]: But they're still trying it.
[SPEAKER_05]: They're trying it on the cow now, and they have
[SPEAKER_05]: of the one who goes, who takes the milk, and it's such a ridiculous story.
[SPEAKER_05]: And it's all with PCR, it's all.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I, with this, with Corona, I, from the beginning, I knew it was just the PCR test.
[SPEAKER_05]: There is nothing, nothing else.
[SPEAKER_05]: I didn't know so much about beta coronaviruses.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, I had heard about them in SARS-1, and then I suddenly thought, where have they been all those 20 years?
[SPEAKER_05]: Didn't they have varieties too?
[SPEAKER_05]: And why do they all come from Wuhan?
[SPEAKER_05]: Why don't they come from Cologne, or from Berlin, or from Birmingham, or whatever?
[SPEAKER_05]: Viruses are everywhere, 10 million passengers each day.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's the stories they do, they are really stupid.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I'm so disappointed about my colleagues who don't question this, who are just following those narratives as they were blinded.
[SPEAKER_05]: But perhaps I was blinded too.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm very glad that there are people like JJ who are speaking up.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I have another thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: This was where you spoke about so many people you thought who made wrong things, who were criminal even.
[SPEAKER_05]: But I think one thing was very important from people in the US for me to understand the role of the military.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think this was because I could not understand that all those different governments all over the world, they were just obeying WHO.
[SPEAKER_05]: This I could not understand.
[SPEAKER_05]: So there must be something.
[J.Jay Couey]: There was a health minister in the Netherlands who actually admitted, Wolfgang, that it was actually a coordinated thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: And this was Catherine Watts who made me see this.
[SPEAKER_05]: She see all the preparations they did, all the small laws they did to make this possible.
[SPEAKER_05]: that the emergency regulations, all this stuff.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I think this was important because suddenly I understood why they told us that only the military can do the logistics with this stuff, because it has to be minus 80 degrees.
[SPEAKER_05]: This was just to monopolize the whole logistic to the military.
[SPEAKER_05]: This was just a trick.
[SPEAKER_05]: And all those things, I understood more and more.
[J.Jay Couey]: But understand that I just want to make sure that this is really clear, because I disagree with the fact that these people that are associated with Sasha Latupova are good.
[J.Jay Couey]: And the one mistake they're making is that the DoD in America takes orders.
[J.Jay Couey]: They don't do things on their own.
[J.Jay Couey]: they might make plans but they only make plans that they're told to make and they only execute plans when they're told to execute them so ultimately health and human services and fema and nih and cdc all have to turn the keys and push the green buttons before the dod is going to execute a plan and what sasha latipova is doing
[J.Jay Couey]: is trying to blame the DOD for something that people above them did.
[J.Jay Couey]: And that's the trick, that's the trick we really have to see.
[J.Jay Couey]: Sasha Latapova, if you track down what she was doing in 2021, you won't find anything, because she wasn't doing anything then.
[J.Jay Couey]: She hadn't been called on the scene until 2022.
[J.Jay Couey]: She was on stage with Robert Malone.
[J.Jay Couey]: She cannot be good.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is the perspective you can have from US, but when I saw it from Germany, I saw the Bundeswehr, the German military, doing such things.
[J.Jay Couey]: And I didn't see what was going on.
[J.Jay Couey]: But again, I think that the German military also takes orders.
[J.Jay Couey]: They don't do things on their own.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, they are part of the NATO.
[SPEAKER_05]: And they are part of this big machine.
[SPEAKER_05]: And they had to do it, yes, I think.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, and there were some questions.
[SPEAKER_05]: I found out that when I did this with the swine flu,
[SPEAKER_05]: I was, there was Mr. Van Ranst in Belgium, Mr. Pandemic in Belgium, and he mocked me, he made a video for the Virologs, for the organization of Virologs, and he made a video, and at the end of the video he showed his finger and he said, ha ha, he came too late.
[SPEAKER_05]: But this was in February, in the beginning of 2019.
[SPEAKER_05]: Wow!